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[Cockney Mackem]

They are both minor figures on the world so you are losing nothing from ignoring them but I think Peterson is far different. His stance comes from decades of academic study and work as a clinical psychologist. There is plenty in his work to make you think about stuff. Rogan just seems to be good at talking to people

The thing about his work, and especially the stuff he does that appeals to right wing incels, is that his skill is very much in understanding the psychology of credulous knobheads and what they feed off. His ideas themselves don't compare well to other psychologists, because they actually go out and test their theories in the area they're speaking to, such as the workplace and how the different genders perform etc. He's not interested in testing those theories, the only actual theory he's testing is the theory that what he writes or says next will generate millions of views from internet trolls and potential school shooters.

Rogan is clearly good at podcasting and interviewing, the actual objection is that he is using his platform to spread Covid conspiracy theories, anti tax lies and misinformation. Leaving that part out of the analysis is rather like if someone were on trial for stealing a car and people only discussed how well the defendant drove it.

Yes, my position remains.

Both the WHO and Young can woke off.

Yes, my position remains.

Both the WHO and Young can woke off.

You can tell a lot about people from the posts they like

 

[Harry Angstrom]

The thing about his work, and especially the stuff he does that appeals to right wing incels, is that his skill is very much in understanding the psychology of credulous knobheads and what they feed off. His ideas themselves don't compare well to other psychologists, because they actually go out and test their theories in the area they're speaking to, such as the workplace and how the different genders perform etc. He's not interested in testing those theories, the only actual theory he's testing is the theory that what he writes or says next will generate millions of views from internet trolls and potential school shooters.

Rogan is clearly good at podcasting and interviewing, the actual objection is that he is using his platform to spread Covid conspiracy theories, anti tax lies and misinformation. Leaving that part out of the analysis is rather like if someone were on trial for stealing a car and people only discussed how well the defendant drove it.

I think you are utterly wrong about Peterson. He was a clinical psychologist for 30 years and an academic that ran plenty of courses in the subjects he studied.

He got famous by accident.

Rogan has thousands of podcasts and he isn't like the BBC he doesn't have to be unbiased and his guests aren't representative of his views. I quite like the fact that stuff can come through unfiltered and people can make up their mind on evidence presented. Just like the bizarre one sided view you have on Jordan Peterson posted in the first paragraph.

 

[Cockney Mackem]

I think you are utterly wrong about Peterson. He was a clinical psychologist for 30 years and an academic that ran plenty of courses in the subjects he studied.

He got famous by accident.

Rogan has thousands of podcasts and he isn't like the BBC he doesn't have to be unbiased and his guests aren't representative of his views. I quite like the fact that stuff can come through unfiltered and people can make up their mind on evidence presented. Just like the bizarre one sided view you have on Jordan Peterson posted in the first paragraph.

Think what you like. A has a lot of theories about things outside his field, that are not tested, and are contradicted by psychologists who work in those fields and have done the actual grunt work of proving what they're writing. He gets very flustered when those other psychologists call him out.

It's pretty clear that the guests who have come on spreading Covid theories very much represent his views, but it's a nice easy idea to hide behind

 

[Harry Angstrom]

Think what you like. A has a lot of theories about things outside his field, that are not tested, and are contradicted by psychologists who work in those fields and have done the actual grunt work of proving what they're writing. He gets very flustered when those other psychologists call him out.

It's pretty clear that the guests who have come on spreading Covid theories very much represent his views, but it's a nice easy idea to hide behind

I will think what I like and I think you are utterly wrong about him. As I say I don't agree with some of his conclusions but your description says more about you and your viewpoint on the world than it does on Peterson.

I don't know enough about Rogan's covid stuff to have an opinion. I am easy with people having opinions that are utterly wrong. It is a free country after all. If Spotify agree with Young then they would be cancelling Rogan. I think they may end up doing that in the long run if people side with Young. I would definitely leave if some big hitters lefy the platform.

 

[Billericay Dichio]

I will think what I like and I think you are utterly wrong about him. As I say I don't agree with some of his conclusions but your description says more about you and your viewpoint on the world than it does on Peterson.

I don't know enough about Rogan's covid stuff to have an opinion. I am easy with people having opinions that are utterly wrong. It is a free country after all. If Spotify agree with Young then they would be cancelling Rogan. I think they may end up doing that in the long run if people side with Young. I would definitely leave if some big hitters lefy the platform.

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Another grifter.

 

[Gelan]

I nivver pointed out yours I pointed out mine.

Yeah weird, when I looked, my post was above lefties...must be my PC

Nope not stoned...packed in the weed.

 

[Harry Angstrom]

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Another grifter.

I commented on that earlier. Saying it looked like he got that spectacularly wrong

I disagree that either of them are grifters. But I assume you would have already known that.

 

[Billericay Dichio]

I commented on that earlier. Saying it looked like he got that spectacularly wrong

I disagree that either of them are grifters. But I assume you would have already known that.

Earlier you stated: "I think you are utterly wrong about Peterson. He was a clinical psychologist for 30 years and an academic that ran plenty of courses in the subjects he studied."

What exactly are his climate change qualifications?

I think his apologists see him as an "educated" man when in fact he has no qualifications in much of the stuff he spouts on social media. It does, however, help him appeal to his base and sell more of his "self-help" books.

Rogan is another grifter and is happy to give a platform to others like him. One hand washes the other.

 

[genewolf]

Neil Young is a leftist bully and a little shit house not to mention a Covid Karen and conspiracy theorist.

I’m glad he’s covered with egg on his face.

So you're more of a Lynyrd Skynyrd fan?

 

[Gelan]

You can tell a lot about people from the posts they like

What about me? I give likes to anyone, the haters, the lefties, the Boris bashers, people who have wished me dead...even you man.

The only thing you can tell about me by my likes is that I don't have agendas.

I'm not in any club or clique...so please exclude me from your analytics.

Nah, you're ok

ps. I gave you a like

 

[Pancho]

So you're more of a Lynyrd Skynyrd fan?

That one will fly over Lordy's head like a Freebird.

 

[Lefty Frizzell]

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Joe is far too important to Google things himself these days. He has a lackey called Jamie on the show to do this for him these days.

 

[Harry Angstrom]

Earlier you stated: "I think you are utterly wrong about Peterson. He was a clinical psychologist for 30 years and an academic that ran plenty of courses in the subjects he studied."

What exactly are his climate change qualifications?

I think his apologists see him as an "educated" man when in fact he has no qualifications in much of the stuff he spouts on social media. It does, however, help him appeal to his base and sell more of his "self-help" books.

Rogan is another grifter and is happy to give a platform to others like him. One hand washes the other.

This is what Cockney wrote

The thing about his work, and especially the stuff he does that appeals to right wing incels, is that his skill is very much in understanding the psychology of credulous knobheads and what they feed off. His ideas themselves don't compare well to other psychologists,

I replied you are utterly wrong about Peterson. he is an academic for 30years standing and a clinical psychologist that has worked with thousands of clients. i also said I didn't agree with some of his conclusions but I do think his points are worthy of discussion and agree with him on a fair few points.


I find the animosity to him baffling.

 

[Lefty Frizzell]

He hasn't tried to cancel Rogan ffs. He's basically said he doesn't think someone spreading covid misinformation should be on the same platform his stuff is on. Spotify have obviously sided with Rogan, because his misinformation brings them in more money.

It's not a hot take, Rogan's dangerous ramblings shouldn't be on the platform.

I do wonder what Spotifys stance on this matter is? They said they’d taken down 20k podcasts from the platform over covid misinformation, yet the podcast with the guest that caused the major issue is still up. Surely Spotify should be pressured in to taking the episode down?

 

[Pancho]

Joe is far too important to Google things himself these days. He has a lackey called Jamie on the show to do this for him these days.

Colour me completely bereft of interest.

 

[Harry Angstrom]

I do wonder what Spotifys stance on this matter is? They said they’d taken down 20k podcasts from the platform over covid misinformation, yet the podcast with the guest that caused the major issue is still up. Surely Spotify should be pressured in to taking the episode down?

It would seem the logical step.

I still see nothing wrong with people putting odd views on the internet. people have a brain and can come to their own conclusions.

 

[Lefty Frizzell]

It would seem the logical step.

I still see nothing wrong with people putting odd views on the internet. people have a brain and can come to their own conclusions.

Well I completely agree with you. I listen /watch some utter shite, but it’s entertainment as far as I’m concerned.

I do dislike the protectors sticking their ore in to state that the thickies wont know what’s real and isn’t real, as they will just believe absolutely everything they take in. It’s such a snobby way of thinking of others. It’s always other people who are gullible, and of course, would never happen to them.

Colour me completely bereft of interest.

It’s really not that bad of a podcast. Obviously some shite interviews but others that are decent entertainment. Edward Snowden, Lance Armstrong, Neil deGrasse Tyson and Bill Burr are ones that come to mind that I really enjoyed.

 

[Cockney Mackem]

It would seem the logical step.

I still see nothing wrong with people putting odd views on the internet. people have a brain and can come to their own conclusions.

Hopefully it won't emerge that there's any kind of problem with establishing the correct facts on important topics because of they way misinformation is used on the internet to undermine proper factual data sources or anything like that

 

[parm]

Must be a relief no one was…

not through lack of trying from old neil however

 

[Harry Angstrom]

Hopefully it won't emerge that there's any kind of problem with establishing the correct facts on important topics because of they way misinformation is used on the internet to undermine proper factual data sources or anything like that

Good luck with that.

I'm happy that I don't need protecting from misinformation. I am happy each individual has intellectual autonomy and if some people believe utter shite then it just needs to be countered with the truth.

I'd rather have a lot of nonsense than someone choosing what I can see.