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More erasing of history...


johnlights said:
No one has said that though, fivehead.
The removal of the figures is woke. Not the animals.
But you knew that, Tefal.
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You said it was woke!
You clearly don't know what woke means, and it's painfully obvious.

The king is on one side. Why not mix it up a bit with what's on the other? Is the king being on it not a figure enough for you?
Churchill, while a war prime minister and good for that, wasn't exactly covered in glory before and after WW2.

Maybe having some of our indigenous wildlife on it would be a nice change.
Stop being so precious.
Ah. I've just seen that Fartrage is saying "They're replacing churchill with a beaver. This is the definition of woke".
You're literally parroting this unpatriotic toadfaced dipshit.
 
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c032745y said:
He even mentioned that it was because of "progressive people" as a negative, the converse of which is regressive. Strange folk, these righties...
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These types of people besmirch everything their country stands for... like the American Christians who mask racism and misogyny as Christianity, this lot do it in the name of Patriotism. It is a massive insult to the qualities held so proudly in this country.
johnlights said:
No one has said that though, fivehead.
The removal of the figures is woke. Not the animals.
But you knew that, Tefal.
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What definition of woke are you using? The standardised SMB definition or a weird one you use to anything you hate?
 
Keawyeds said:
You said it was woke!
You clearly don't know what woke means, and it's painfully obvious.

The king is on one side. Why not mix it up a bit with what's on the other? Is the king being on it not a figure enough for you?
Churchill, while a war prime minister and good for that, wasn't exactly covered in glory before and after WW2.

Maybe having some of our indigenous wildlife on it would be a nice change.
Stop being so precious.
Ah. I've just seen that Fartrage is saying "They're replacing churchill with a beaver. This is the definition of woke".
You're literally parroting this unpatriotic toadfaced dipshit.
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Removing Churchill is woke.
Animals aren't.
Is that clear enough? I suspect not.
 
Just curious about the outrage here.

If the current historical figures were replaced with other historical figures would their still be outrage?

If Churchill was replaced with Wellington would you still think Churchill has been cancelled and erased from history by the woke? Afterall, its the same effect in that Churchill still isn't on the note.
 
johnlights said:
Removing Churchill is woke.
Animals aren't.
Is that clear enough? I suspect not.
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That isn't what woke is man :lol: It's standing up to racial, social injustice and intolerance.
It's not about removing Churchill and replacing him with a Beaver.
Were you outraged when Elizabeth Fry was removed from the fiver? Or were you fuming when she was put on it and not another bloke?

Come on, man. Do better.
 
Keawyeds said:
That isn't what woke is man :lol: It's standing up to racial, social injustice and intolerance.
It's not about removing Churchill and replacing him with a Beaver.
Were you outraged when Elizabeth Fry was removed from the fiver? Or were you fuming when she was put on it and not another bloke?

Come on, man. Do better.
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And there we are.
Point proven.
I've nothing more to add now.
You've just done it for me.
Thank you.
Social injustice, brilliant
 
johnlights said:
Hopefully it'll be native lions...
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It states on the Bank of England's website:

For the wildlife theme, the Bank will incorporate images of animals native to the UK. The Bank will not include household pets as part of the theme.

I'd expect a mix of species with dwindling numbers, e.g. hedgehogs, bees, song thrush; and our more popular animals e.g. robin and deer.

If it helps to reverse the chronic depletion of biodiversity in this country then it's a good thing, but it needs a lot more than a few animals on bank notes given the major causes are habitat lass (commercial and domestic property development and the like) and intensive farming.

If it has no impact then I don't see the point. It would just be a soulless gimmick for no purpose other than: "look at us, aren't we progressive and special with our removal of people associated with imperialism in favour of our nature". Meanwhile, Britain continues to be one of the most nature depleted countries in the world and it gets worse.
 
Locke's SAFC said:
It states on the Bank of England's website:

For the wildlife theme, the Bank will incorporate images of animals native to the UK. The Bank will not include household pets as part of the theme.

I'd expect a mix of species with dwindling numbers, e.g. hedgehogs, bees, song thrush; and our more popular animals e.g. robin and deer.

If it helps to reverse the chronic depletion of biodiversity in this country then it's a good thing, but it needs a lot more than a few animals on bank notes given the major causes are habitat lass (commercial and domestic property development and the like) and intensive farming.

If it has no impact then I don't see the point. It would just be a soulless gimmick for no purpose other than: "look at us, aren't we progressive and special with our removal of people associated with imperialism in favour of our nature". Meanwhile, Britain continues to be one of the most nature depleted countries in the world and it gets worse.
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Last paragraph nails it.
But its the seen thing to celebrate this nonsense.
 
johnlights said:
Removing Churchill is woke.
Animals aren't.
Is that clear enough? I suspect not.
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was it woke when george stephenson was taken off the £5 note in 2003 ?

or when charles dickons was taken off the £10 note in 2003 ?

or when shakespeare was taken off the £20 in 1993 ?

or when Christopher Wren was taken off the £50 note in 1996?

were you equally out raged at those ? or could it be your just out raged now because social media algorithms have directed you to be?
 
I'll also point out that its not that unusual for countries to celebrate there national animals. Australia has the Kangaroo on some of there currency for example. Why shouldn't we celebrate ours? Aren't ours special? Are people ashamed of them?
 
johnlights said:
Last paragraph nails it.
But its the seen thing to celebrate this nonsense.
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I'm pretty neutral to the whole imperialism good/bad argument, but I do agree with you in the sense that most, not all though, who will be banging on about this being such a good thing are people who like to call themselves "progressives" and pat each other on the back about how special they are. Meanwhile, they probably have no idea of the number of species that are struggling in this country, from things that they benefit from as well, e.g. development of domestic property at the expense of the land and habitat that all of the animals depend on; and over-consumption as well, buying loads of shite that people don't need, well, it has to be produced somewhere and on some land at the expense of the animals.
 
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