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Lass at work (no) has turned 25 this year and is on minimum wage.

Everyone else at work has received an annual % pay rise (as have the entire national organisation).

Our manager has told her that she's decided not to give her it as not only has the 'National Minimum Wage went up in April for her pay rise', but 'she's also went up an age bracket on her minimum wage' from 21-24, to 25+.

Doesn't seem right to me. At that rate, she'll be stuck on minimum wage for life. Is she not entitled to the organisation's nationwide pay rise, like everyone else?
 
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Get Into Em said:
Lass at work (no) has turned 25 this year and is on minimum wage.

Everyone else at work has received an annual % pay rise (as have the entire national organisation).

Our manager has told her that she's decided not to give her it as not only has the 'National Minimum Wage went up in April for her pay rise', but 'she's also went up an age bracket on her minimum wage' from 21-24, to 25+.

Doesn't seem right to me. At that rate, she'll be stuck on minimum wage for life. Is she not entitled to the organisation's nationwide pay rise, like everyone else?
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That sounds shit like. She should get the same annual % pay rise as everyone else as well as the statutory increases.
 
If its a nationwide organisation, then i assume they'll have some sort of grading structure. If the bottom grade is NMW then the likely hood is that her % increase will be greater than the rest of the staff anyway, so they havent done anything wrong.

Whats the opportunities like for moving up the ladder? If she stays in her current position, then yes she'll always be on NMW.
 
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Get Into Em said:
Lass at work (no) has turned 25 this year and is on minimum wage.

Everyone else at work has received an annual % pay rise (as have the entire national organisation).

Our manager has told her that she's decided not to give her it as not only has the 'National Minimum Wage went up in April for her pay rise', but 'she's also went up an age bracket on her minimum wage' from 21-24, to 25+.

Doesn't seem right to me. At that rate, she'll be stuck on minimum wage for life. Is she not entitled to the organisation's nationwide pay rise, like everyone else?
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Just an idea like, but if ALL of you got together, and had a meeting with your manager and told him/her that what they are doing is NOT acceptable to the workforce and to make this person on the payroll and working to the same terms and conditions as the rest of you.
Everyone would be happy then yes?
 
Butcher's Coat said:
Just an idea like, but if ALL of you got together, and had a meeting with your manager and told him/her that what they are doing is NOT acceptable to the workforce and to make this person on the payroll and working to the same terms and conditions as the rest of you.
Everyone would be happy then yes?
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Novel idea. But what should we call this getting together of the brothers and sisters of the workforce for a common cause? Perhaps a "union"?
 
Butcher's Coat said:
Just an idea like, but if ALL of you got together, and had a meeting with your manager and told him/her that what they are doing is NOT acceptable to the workforce and to make this person on the payroll and working to the same terms and conditions as the rest of you.
Everyone would be happy then yes?
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Can of worms.. you could end up fi ding some are one a fair whack more than others.

Would some of the higher ones take a cut so parity can be met in the middle
 
fyl2u said:
Novel idea. But what should we call this getting together of the brothers and sisters of the workforce for a common cause? Perhaps a "union"?
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I would take a guess that the workforce are not 100% union members - I hope I am wrong like.
Epping said:
Can of worms.. you could end up fi ding some are one a fair whack more than others.

Would some of the higher ones take a cut so parity can be met in the middle
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That's the problem isn't it?
There might well be others who are on a different screw - but all that should be out in the open shouldn't it?
The T's & C's should be universal throughout the workforce though, pay grades are a different animal though.
But this company is ran by shysters- if they are happy to differentiate between the workforce as the O.P. has stated.
 
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Butcher's Coat said:
Just an idea like, but if ALL of you got together, and had a meeting with your manager and told him/her that what they are doing is NOT acceptable to the workforce and to make this person on the payroll and working to the same terms and conditions as the rest of you.
Everyone would be happy then yes?
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Wouldn't happen.
 
It's called the National Living Wage nowadays and while many people mock it it's helped stop the taxpayer subsidising absolutely shit employers.

If you'd got an increase every year since it was introduced it would be a 116% increase which can't be a bad thing.

Well done the Labour Party.
 
Paddy O'Dors said:
It's called the National Living Wage nowadays and while many people mock it it's helped stop the taxpayer subsidising absolutely shit employers.

If you'd got an increase every year since it was introduced it would be a 116% increase which can't be a bad thing.

Well done the Labour Party.
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The National Living Wage is something completely different to minimum wage though and is a voluntary concept whereby the government has tried to state what the lowest “fair” wage to pay someone is. It doesn’t have to be followed and clearly isn’t in the OPs example
 
TravellingMackem said:
The National Living Wage is something completely different to minimum wage though and is a voluntary concept whereby the government has tried to state what the lowest “fair” wage to pay someone is. It doesn’t have to be followed and clearly isn’t in the OPs example
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Ah, see. George Osborne rebranded the NMW as the NLW, so that he could make claims like “X% of employers pay the living wage” despite the fact that as you say, the living wage for years was what was considered a wage necessary to “live” on, not just exist.

Shithouse he is.
 
TravellingMackem said:
The National Living Wage is something completely different to minimum wage though and is a voluntary concept whereby the government has tried to state what the lowest “fair” wage to pay someone is. It doesn’t have to be followed and clearly isn’t in the OPs example
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Its not. You're confusing it with "The Living Wage" which something (I think the Rowntree foundation) have come up with for the minimum amount to live on.
The NLW is just a rebranded NMW for the over 25's. And it is the law to pay it. There is a loophole with apprentices though.
 
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TravellingMackem said:
The National Living Wage is something completely different to minimum wage though and is a voluntary concept whereby the government has tried to state what the lowest “fair” wage to pay someone is. It doesn’t have to be followed and clearly isn’t in the OPs example
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Pretty sure the NLW applies to anyone over 25.
 
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