Flea Market Trader
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Back up with the view being to eventually compete for the number 1 jersey. If he were at the tail end of his career I would say back up only.
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Mellborg - perennial back-up or future 1st teamer?
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Mowgli
Striker
When Patterson was the same age as Ellborg, he'd just had a loan finished in the conference and came back to Sunderland.
JERUDONG No.10
Striker
It’s daft having two non-homegrown keepers. I’d rather see Matty Young in the squad now over Ellborg.
shkatërrues
Midfield
Fair enough but if we’re talking about next season and playing regular Patto would give me more confidence than Ellborg does right now
Mowgli
Striker
Aye but thats a completely different question to asking if a 22 year old keeper is 'perennial backup'.
Why can't people just give young players time? He won't have been bought to start even next season.
Its Him Again
Striker
This place man 
Comparing any young keeper to Pickford is a tough one man. He's been Englands number 1 for 10 yrs and isn't he one of England's highest ever appearance holders? The hero of multiple tournaments 
He was unbelievable at a young age but it's possible to be a very solid Premier League goalkeeper without being compared to JP.
It's too early to say, clearly. Let's give the lad a chance. I suspect he'll end up understudy to Young when we inevitably sell Roefs.
He was unbelievable at a young age but it's possible to be a very solid Premier League goalkeeper without being compared to JP.
It's too early to say, clearly. Let's give the lad a chance. I suspect he'll end up understudy to Young when we inevitably sell Roefs.
shkatërrues
Midfield
I get he’s been put in well before we expected him to be and he’s got plenty of time to develop, he may well make it but…
His handling is poor
Distribution is hit and miss
Can’t get through bodies to claim or punch a ball
I just think there’s too much wrong for him to be a premier league goal keeper
Also we’ve got Young out on loan who is probably a better prospect so Ellborg is likely to be his back up or hopefully will be
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Mowgli
Striker
Even Pickford was 22/23 ish before becoming our number 1.Comparing any young keeper to Pickford is a tough one man. He's been Englands number 1 for 10 yrs and isn't he one of England's highest ever appearance holders? The hero of multiple tournaments
He was unbelievable at a young age but it's possible to be a very solid Premier League goalkeeper without being compared to JP.
It's too early to say, clearly. Let's give the lad a chance. I suspect he'll end up understudy to Young when we inevitably sell Roefs.
Its just mental to write players off so easily.
Emi Martinez at villa was playing at Sheffield Wednesday at the bottom end of the championship.
He didn't become a PL regular keeper until 26. Hes now a world cup winner and seen as one of the best is the league. There will be dozens of examples like this.
Ellborg isn't ready, but writing him off is absolutely pathetic and sums this place up. People had written off rigg the other week at 18.
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shkatërrues
Midfield
You’re allowed to look at the attributes of a young player and decide they’re not going to make it we don’t have to believe that every player is going to make it
I’m a believer in giving people time to develop and am not one of those that thinks Rigg won’t make it I just don’t think Ellborg is going to
People like Martinez showed better promise than Ellborg is
leerik_canamole
Striker
Whatever happens the decisions will be made with Matty Young in mind. 2 years time and he'll be out number 1, no doubt about it.
Personally I think the club will do everything possible to hold onto Roefs for one more year, then let him go with Matty waiting to step in.
Personally I think the club will do everything possible to hold onto Roefs for one more year, then let him go with Matty waiting to step in.
Martinez, you're using one of the best keepers in the world as a benchmark, Very unfair.
Mowgli
Striker
Fair enough. Pointless going round and round in circles.
Ellborg was brought in for peanuts and will either contribute long term or they'll probably get a profit on him anyway.
Not sure why we need a thread to decide right now about him.
Like I've just said above, Martinez didn't become a PL regular until 26 but people want to write off Ellborg after about 400 minutes.
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shkatërrues
Midfield
Wasn’t my example mate I was just replying to someone else’s example
We probably will make a profit given how little we paid
He’s probably judged quite harshly because of how good Roeffs has been as well and given the fact our model is buy young and sell high the questions are always going to be asked of any young player
Lord Alfred
Striker
Don’t think he’s ready to start in the PL but the problem with goalkeepers, unlike the other 10 outfield players is that you don’t sub them or rotate them. If he doesn’t start he never really learns.
Yes but in those 2 minutes some of the resident experts on here have fully evaluated the lad and concluded that he's never going to be good enough.
As others have commented I doubt he was brought in as no 1 should Roefs leave.
That's not really true at all though is it?
Ellborg is 22 years and 11 months old.
When Patterson was 22 years and 11 months old, he'd been back from his loan at Notts County for over a year, and he was approaching the end of his first season as number 1 keeper for us in the Championship, during which he played every game, having broken through the year before in League One. He'd played the best part of 75 games as our number 1 keeper for us. He was very well established at that point.
Yep. The lads done fine. There’s no doubt Roefs is better with his feet currently, people conveniently forget Roefs has made some errors on the ball too, Bournemouth away being one obvious one.
He’s come in away to Leeds and the mags and done well.
Mowgli
Striker
Haway man, I'm not going to delve right into the months
just went for rough ages. Its also hard to judge that version of Patterson to Ellborg. Patterson will be on a higher wage than Ellborg and if sold, will cost more than we paid for Ellborg. He needs time and has done okay after being thrust in. Loads of time
People are going on like this is him and the finished product of what he can be. Can't get my head around it at all.
Same people who probably give Talbi grief
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me is back
Midfield
If Roefs leaves he’ll be number one and do fine. I hope Roefs doesn’t leave though
