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samaistonsrightfoot said:
In August Methven stated that this year the club was expecting to lose 5 million. Since then we have had 3.5 in for Ndong and now 1.5 in for Maja. Both incomes that could not have been accounted for in the summer. I’m not sure if Khazri going was before or after that interview.

Donald has also stated projected figures were based on 27k attendances iirc, and we also have increased attendances and extra match day revenue.

There’s an outstanding issue with wages owed to Alvarez but Short is paying half of these but nobody knows how much this will cost the club. Nobody seems to want to say.
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Wasn't Ndong money previously owed to Short though, that was definitely what Donald said early in on ad at the time it was anything up to 8m was due to Short.

Donald has repeatedly spoken about cash flow issues so maybe there's some trade off going there whereby we now don't have to stump up the khazri money within the next 6/7 months and that eases cash flow issues, whilst also allows us to structure some incoming transfers over a longer period.

Who knows. as much as the club have been relatively open about things, there's also been a bit of contradiction in their too.
 
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sksk3021 said:
Not sure he is now, saying he reckons the parachute payments will be surplus for next season.
Would be a great achievement if they have got us to breakeven or close to it from next season. Although what happens next will be an even bigger test.
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That was always my expectation, or at least most of them. They year 2 parachute payments were basically committed at the time of the takeover. It sounds like financially we are now ahead of where they thought we'd be, meaning more of the year 3 parachute will be available for investment next season.
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
That was always my expectation, or at least most of them. They year 2 parachute payments were basically committed at the time of the takeover. It sounds like financially we are now ahead of where they thought we'd be, meaning more of the year 3 parachute will be available for investment next season.
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We will need it for next season, think we will need investment to compete in the championship.
They have done a really good job on the finances it seems.
 
James said:
Wyke is a carthorse imo and just isn't going to score more than a handful. We don't create that many chances at the best of times, our overall game needs to step up and we need to start taking the game to teams. We've been getting away with it for months due to Maja scoring the one chance he gets.

Grigg would be excellent but he's out for another 3 weeks. It might be a slog until then - assuming he signs!
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Wyke isn’t the best centre forward we’ve ever had, but isn’t he due a bit of slack due to the terrible service he has been served up, he can only play to his very obvious limited abilities but surely we should be trying to use them a bit more, he’s a target man and he’ll be lucky to have received half a dozen decent crosses in the games he’s played.
 
The Rat said:
It’s just the praise they are getting off for paying off debts which have lets be honest been paid with the 16 mill we’ve got from selling players short bought

I’m not saying it didn’t need to be done but it’s not been out of their own pocket like people go on. Still short essentially
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But the debts to transfers alone was something like 23m iirc, so that wouldn't be covered. that money was also all due before the start of next season iirc, whereas all the money due in isn't.

we need to invest desperately, I'm not going to argue against that, but you can see why they constantly mention cash flow issues.
 
sadders said:
Will Maja now be remembered in the same way we remember Bent, Gyan and Hutchinson?
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No for me.

Bent and gyan scored some cracking goals in the top league and had some good games with them playing. Disappointed when they left.

Maja - decent league 1 striker. Won't be remembered in a few year.
 
Perryqhill said:
But the debts to transfers alone was something like 23m iirc, so that wouldn't be covered. that money was also all due before the start of next season iirc, whereas all the money due in isn't.

we need to invest desperately, I'm not going to argue against that, but you can see why they constantly mention cash flow problems.
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Yeah of course I’m not really arguing against it like

But they’re just using players who were already here to pay it off like, which is fine but they seem to be getting lot of praise for it

I’m just slightly disappointed they haven’t been prepared to invest more capital in to clear the decks. When you consider 16mill in for players it’s a hell of a deal. Fair play to them
 
steve30000 said:
He'd have been playing games

He'd be on more money

He'd have a release clause

He could have scored more goals, and his profile would have been higher

He could have left on good terms
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He might be playing games anyway at a higher level, probably on more money, he already has a release clause he could go for nothing, he wouldn't have left on good terms anyway!
 
Perryqhill said:
Wasn't Ndong money previously owed to Short though, that was definitely what Donald said early in on ad at the time it was anything up to 8m was due to Short.

Donald has repeatedly spoken about cash flow issues so maybe there's some trade off going there whereby we now don't have to stump up the khazri money within the next 6/7 months and that eases cash flow issues, whilst also allows us to structure some incoming transfers over a longer period.

Who knows. as much as the club have been relatively open about things, there's also been a bit of contradiction in their too.
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Ndong originally was because Short thought we would sell him in the summer. I may be mistaken but I’m 99% certain either Donald or Methven said that that clause expired in August.

It’s difficult for anyone to really acertain where the club is financially. We can only go off the small pieces of info the club wants us to know.
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
That was always my expectation, or at least most of them. They year 2 parachute payments were basically committed at the time of the takeover. It sounds like financially we are now ahead of where they thought we'd be, meaning more of the year 3 parachute will be available for investment next season.
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Exactly. He’s been saying how much better off we are than what was budgeted.

Why people ignore this and instead only concentrate on things they (wrongly) interpret to mean the owners are preparing the fans for not spending this window I don’t know. Actually I do.
 
sksk3021 said:
He might be playing games anyway at a higher level, probably on more money, he already has a release clause he could go for nothing, he wouldn't have left on good terms anyway!
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He was a guaranteed starter here, and we would probably have sold him at the end of the season anyway, especially if he wanted to better himself.

Now he'll be lucky if he's on the bench in a foreign country, their manager has said as much.
 
Chucky Puddin said:
No doubt SD will be on Twitter later to confirm the situation about the move and financial aspect of it!
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I know what you mean but I don’t think he needs to waste his time issuing regular updates at the minute mate.

His time will be better spent making sure we get these deals over the line.

Any update would be best saved until the window closes.
 
Why is it that people’s default position is to treat the club as being the enemy? Why does it have to be us vs them?

Is this a legacy from Short or has it always been like this?

As far as I’m aware the new owners have given us no reason to distrust them so much as yet so why assume they’re lying to us? They’ve far more at stake and stand to benefit far more from the club doing well than any of us so why assume their motives are otherwise and anything more sinister?
 
steve30000 said:
He was a guaranteed starter here, and we would probably have sold him at the end of the season anyway, especially if he wanted to better himself.

Now he'll be lucky if he's on the bench in a foreign country, their manager has said as much.
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Maybe, I think the club wanted to sell him this window as soon as he didn't sign a contract.
Why would he be better off going at the end of the season?
 
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