Joe Root

[Wise Man Says]

He's living off that big ton at Lord's against the Aussies.

 

[Deleted member 35923]

If Root dropped into county cricket he would score bucketloads. He is worth persisting with IMO. The problem is where he bats. England have to decide whether he is going to be an opener or a middle order batsman. Its no good at all moving him up and down.

If it was up to me (and I havent been given that job yet for some reason) Id stick with him at the top of the order. He may struggle there for a time but he is more than capable of growing into the role if he is awarded patience.

Cook
Root
Ballance
Bell
Morgan
Ali
Prior
Stokes
Jordan
Broad
Anderson

There is a blend of youth and experience there and in Ali and Root we could go down a similar road to the South Africans (i.e there are no outstanding spin candidates so have two doing a bit part time stuff).

Stokes provides the extra seam option and batting depth (maybe that helps to offset the unreliability of Morgan in the Test arena and inexperience of the others).

One thing is for certain, the side doesn't pick itself anymore and places are up for grabs but I just think that the above side is a good option for the short and long term future. Im sure plenty will disagree

 

[Voice of fair play]

this summer, if prior is out, then buttler should start in the sri lanka series, then its down to him, to retain his place. ironic how he left somerset to play wickie for lancs and the odds are lancs wont see him


indeed. who is wickie at hampshire, surrey and middlsex these days?

Think that was the whole point of him leaving Somerset mate,as was second choice keeper there,and to be honest think Lancs knew that and expected him to be missing a lot of games (probably only ODI and 20/20 games mind)

 

[stephen cartwright]

two sides both with morgan. do people think he will play tests this summer? i like the lad and hope he comes back as he is a poossible replacement for kp, with the skill he has

 

[Mrjardine]

this summer, if prior is out, then buttler should start in the sri lanka series, then its down to him, to retain his place. ironic how he left somerset to play wickie for lancs and the odds are lancs wont see him


indeed. who is wickie at hampshire, surrey and middlsex these days?

Gary Wilson I believe is surreys keeper and sure Michael bates was keeping at Hampshire last time I took any real note.Not a clue who got the gloves at Middlesex to be honest.

 

[Deleted member 35923]

two sides both with morgan. do people think he will play tests this summer? i like the lad and hope he comes back as he is a poossible replacement for kp, with the skill he has

He has struggled in the Test arena previously but, as you say, the aggression and tempo he plays at is the most like for like replacement for Pietersen - and it is required in our side.

He is talented, aggressive, experienced, seems to be very well respected, mentally tough and is good in the field. Again, and many will disagree, I think he is actually the best option for Test captain as well. He could (speculative I know) be Pietersen without the baggage.

 

[stephen cartwright]

Gary Wilson I believe is surreys keeper and sure Michael bates was keeping at Hampshire last time I took any real note.Not a clue who got the gloves at Middlesex to be honest.

cheers not many really to push buttler, prior or bairstow. imo all batsmen first and not glovemen of the likes of knott, bob taylor and jack russell. since gilchrist, if you can average 40 plus, you cant get into a test team

 

[Mrjardine]

cheers not many really to push buttler, prior or bairstow. imo all batsmen first and not glovemen of the likes of knott, bob taylor and jack russell. since gilchrist, if you can average 40 plus, you cant get into a test team

Yeah cricket has moved on from the old fashioned specialist keeper role.Have to be able to hold a bat these days. Foster been far and away best gloveman in county cricket over last ten year but after his brief flirtation as a youngster he's never got close to squad again.
If fit prior would still be my keeper but reason I put Bairstow in my speculative side was due to Priors injury.

He has struggled in the Test arena previously but, as you say, the aggression and tempo he plays at is the most like for like replacement for Pietersen - and it is required in our side.

He is talented, aggressive, experienced, seems to be very well respected, mentally tough and is good in the field. Again, and many will disagree, I think he is actually the best option for Test captain as well. He could (speculative I know) be Pietersen without the baggage.

Oooh I have to take exception to that one.Morgan a canny enough player and think he deserves a recall but he will never be another KP mind.
I don't think pietersens PR agent has done as much work for him as I've done today!

 

[Deleted member 35923]

Yeah cricket has moved on from the old fashioned specialist keeper role.Have to be able to hold a bat these days. Foster been far and away best gloveman in county cricket over last ten year but after his brief flirtation as a youngster he's never got close to squad again.
If fit prior would still be my keeper but reason I put Bairstow in my speculative side was due to Priors injury.



Oooh I have to take exception to that one.Morgan a canny enough player and think he deserves a recall but he will never be another KP mind.
I don't think pietersens PR agent has done as much work for him as I've done today!

I dont think Morgan would be anywhere near as prolific as Pietersen. He'd have to be one of our greatest players to be close. I mainly meant in terms of playing styles and approach to batting / cricket in general. Both positive, attacking and aggressive cricketers. Only I think that Morgan has the temperament to do the captains job and make England an exciting side to watch. If he could deliver on that, Id be happy to have him in the side averaging 30, particularly with Stokes at 8, Jordan at 9 and Broad at 10 to compensate for a potential lack of runs

 

[Randy Ostrich]

Looked petrified of Malinga yesterday

 

[Andy Reids Love Chil]

fair comments but we have to see him performing better as it looks like word has got round on how to bowl to him and he has to show he can get out of this habit of nearly standing on his stumps, to good and full length balls.. i rate the lad but as previously mentioned taylor was not given the opportunities root has had.

personally i would leave him out of odis and t20s and allow him to improve his technique and foot movement for tests. i predict he will captain england though

I agree with the sentiment of dropping him from the limited overs stuff but I'm not all that interested in it, test match cricket is the be all and end all.

For the 5 day stuff, Root has to be in the team and has to have a set position which for me is as opening batsman.

Taylor wasn't given the chances Root did because he isn't as good as Root.

Trust me the lad is going to be a top player.What hasn't helped is the constant shuffling round the order he's had to do.To me last years ashes was a year too soon but once made the decision to open with him they should have stuck with that down under too.
Hel do ok this summer don't worry.

This, is absolutely spot on. No wonder he's been inconsistent when he hasn't had a clue at what position his future is at.

not sure either but i think the pundits on sky mentioned the lad at essex for wicketkeeper, foster if prior was ruled out. not up on my keepers at the moment but there must be others out there as well

If Prior is out, you have to give Buttler the chance. He's the future and the experience of test match cricket will do him good

He has struggled in the Test arena previously but, as you say, the aggression and tempo he plays at is the most like for like replacement for Pietersen - and it is required in our side.

He is talented, aggressive, experienced, seems to be very well respected, mentally tough and is good in the field. Again, and many will disagree, I think he is actually the best option for Test captain as well. He could (speculative I know) be Pietersen without the baggage.

Ridiculous statement.

 

[Deleted member 35923]

I agree with the sentiment of dropping him from the limited overs stuff but I'm not all that interested in it, test match cricket is the be all and end all.

For the 5 day stuff, Root has to be in the team and has to have a set position which for me is as opening batsman.

Taylor wasn't given the chances Root did because he isn't as good as Root.



This, is absolutely spot on. No wonder he's been inconsistent when he hasn't had a clue at what position his future is at.



If Prior is out, you have to give Buttler the chance. He's the future and the experience of test match cricket will do him good





Ridiculous statement.

Not really, particularly if taken in the context it was written (I thought I was clear but you're the second to respond so mustn't have been).

In terms of international experience, approach and tempo in terms of compiling runs, the aggression, slight unorthodoxy and the 'box office' nature of his game, Morgan is the most like for like replacement for Pietersen that we have.

I'm by no means suggesting he will be as anywhere near as successful as Pietersen in the Test arena (another point I thought I made clear by suggesting that Stokes bats at 8 to potentially pad out our batting given Morgan's previous failures at Test level). However, I do think he should be in the side to provide that bit of dynamism that we would lack otherwise.

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

Mike Selvey in the Guardian hints it's likely to be Foster

 

[johnson]

Tin hat on here, but I don't understand why he is an automatic pick it seems.

Averages 36.7 after 15 tests and has never really looked comfortable. The Ashes at home he was a walking wicket, and was carried by his score at Lords (where he was dropped on 8). To me, he looks technically decent, but doesn't have a plan and as such gets bogged down. It's all very well batting for an hour and a half, but if you only contribute a 15-20, it doesn't matter how good you look

One dayers averages similar, which is better. And he seems to play some shots. But he will never clear the ropes (strike rate of 80 is only ok)

Bowls some tidy off spin, but it's no more than that.

Needs big runs in county cricket for me. And I mean BIG runs

Totally agree, he has a big future in the team but he doesn't deserve to be an automatic pick at all. I'd be looking to play Balance at 4 and Morgan at 5 for a bit.

The one who I feel sorry for is James Taylor in comparison to Root.Taylor has been harshly treat when you look at the extensive run Root has had flattering to deceive.Taylors debut and baptism came in that troubled So,Africa home series in 2012 re-Strauss/Pietersen so the atmosphere was far from ideal for a young player like Taylor s first taste of Test cricket.He is about the same age as Root with similar talent yet seems to have been put on the sidelines yet the selectors have persevered with Root.Taylor has definitely not been given a fair crack of the whip whereas Root has yet we are still waiting for him to deliver.

100% this, it is bizarre like.

Cook
Root
Bell
Ballance
Morgan
Taylor
Bairstow
Ali
Broad
Anderson
Onions

How's that for ya

 

[Mrjardine]

Totally agree, he has a big future in the team but he doesn't deserve to be an automatic pick at all. I'd be looking to play Balance at 4 and Morgan at 5 for a bit.



100% this, it is bizarre like.

Who would you suggest then given prior is knackered?

 

[The Breen Machine]

Mike Selvey in the Guardian hints it's likely to be Foster

Strange choice given his age but he's an excellent keeper and his batting has much improved over the years. I would think there aren't many better about to pick from at the moment. I do think it will be Buttler though.

 

[Andy Reids Love Chil]

Interesting stuff from Knight there about Root. Not watching the ball.

 

[Mrjardine]

Trust me the lad is going to be a top player.What hasn't helped is the constant shuffling round the order he's had to do.To me last years ashes was a year too soon but once made the decision to open with him they should have stuck with that down under too.
Hel do ok this summer don't worry.

Bump
(I know I'm a cock )

 

[SAFC11]

Bump
(I know I'm a cock )

Think he struggles a lot more against fast bowlers. From watching today none of Sri Lanka's bowlers seemed that fast especially without Malinga. Good innings today and hope he pushes on, but not too impressed with Sri Lanka's bowling options atm.

 

[Mrjardine]

Think he struggles a lot more against fast bowlers. From watching today none of Sri Lanka's bowlers seemed that fast especially without Malinga. Good innings today and hope he pushes on, but not too impressed with Sri Lanka's bowling options atm.

Sri lankas attack is fairly moderate but he still made a 100 when pressure was on.Took Bell a lot longer to do that than it has Root.
He's still only young and already got 3 tons under his belt.Not many attacks have a rampant Mitchell Johnson to contend with thankfully.