Hume Hybrid Role

[Keith S30S]

The Hume is shite brigade are gutted he had a decent game. They sound like mags, but, but we were only playing Burnley.

Aye well we were paying very good sides earlier in the season when we were picking up wins and draws with Hume playing in various different roles

 

[Whitburnmakem]

Mad how a player who has been piss poor 3 of the last 5 gets picked.... Wonder if this is the reason the manager was being called stubborn and pathetic on the match thread yday....

Because we don’t have anyone else for that can play there that he can trust to help out defensively you ignoring the 67 pass completion against spurs ??? Whilst playing right back

The Hume is shite brigade are gutted he had a decent game. They sound like mags, but, but we were only playing Burnley.

Aye well we were paying every good sides earlier in the season when we were picking up wins and draws with Hume playing in various different roles

Never said he was shite I said he is solid squad player don’t mind him right back I said people are exaggerating saying he was very good last night he juts done the job he was asked le fee was very good Brobby was very good Reinaldo was very good . It’s a bit of a stretch saying someone who had 70% pass completion was very good

 

[dangermows]

Because we don’t have anyone else for that can play there that he can trust to help out defensively you ignoring the 67 pass completion against spurs ??? Whilst playing right back

You said the wingers we'd signed are replacing him, so surely they can?

No. I've discussed passing stats. I'm not obsessed with them like you suddenly are. How were his other stats in that game compared to others? Yards covered? Interceptions? Tackles won?

To be clear, I don't think he's amazing. I've said the manager wants someone in who can cover several positions, allowing us to be fluid in set up during the gane etc. He's doing that job very well.

He wasn't playing right back. As ive already said. Thank you for repeatedly highlighting you don't have a clue about formations.

 

[ZeeZee]

I thought he was as good last night as he was as bad at West Ham.

He’s naturally a full back and being asked to play out of position. I think he’s had some harsh and unfair criticism (and I include myself in that)

 

[dangermows]

The Hume is shite brigade are gutted he had a decent game. They sound like mags, but, but we were only playing Burnley.

Aye well we were paying very good sides earlier in the season when we were picking up wins and draws with Hume playing in various different roles

This fella said he stood about doing nowt and looked lost. Then changed it to he had a solid game after getting a canny ol rinsing. Although he's now said 3 of the last 5 he was piss poor. Although tbf he didn't even realise where he was playing. But the passing stats n that.

 

[Linus]

3-0 win and spending the next day arguing the toss about the terminology used to describe a player's performance.
Also, barely concealed agendas overflowing from a shirtless gonk.

 

[ChrisK]

Or Burnley were crap, so Hume being a square peg in a round hole was not highlighted

don’t know if you watch us but he has played in every game for us this season, and he plays a huge part in us having the best defence bar Man City and Arsenal.

 

[Ohnonotagain]

I admire your certainty. You talk with authority and self confidence. Sadly, your opinions and knowledge of football are mostly tripe.

Football is not just about "going forward". We have others who do that. Hume adds balance and selflessness that provides balance in the team. If you watch the game rather than just the ball, you would see.

Or as a wiser man than me once said:

"What do you do during 87 minutes when you do not have the ball? That is what determines whether you're a good player or not” – Johan Cruyff.

I’d agree with you but then we’d both be wrong.

f***ing Hell….Your poster name is spot on. You are spouting shite.

I suppose that’s why Liverpool wanted Hume instead of Geertruide…..oh hang on!!!!!

The Hume is shite brigade are gutted he had a decent game. They sound like mags, but, but we were only playing Burnley.

Aye well we were paying very good sides earlier in the season when we were picking up wins and draws with Hume playing in various different roles

Never said he was shite. I said he’s nowhere near as good as Geertruida.

 

[KathyBatesHammer]

Well the haters need a new boo boy now DNs left.

 

[hoolio]

Hume is pivotal to this team, him playing in that hybrid role allows Mukiele to give us width ,Enzo and Diarra to get closer to Brobbey and with Talbi playing a bit narrower from the left we have a real goal threat now. When we are out of possession Hume makes a back five, Reg has either had a stroke of genius or stumbled on masterplan that improves us no end.

 

[sunderpitt]

don’t know if you watch us but he has played in every game for us this season, and he plays a huge part in us having the best defence bar Man City and Arsenal.

He is a very good RB, love his tackles... just don't try and make him a '10'

 

[Whitburnmakem]

Hume is pivotal to this team, him playing in that hybrid role allows Mukiele to give us width ,Enzo and Diarra to get closer to Brobbey and with Talbi playing a bit narrower from the left we have a real goal threat now. When we are out of possession Hume makes a back five, Reg has either had a stroke of genius or stumbled on masterplan that improves us no end.

You can also find a player to do this that offers something in an attacking sense and can pass to someone in the same colour shirt
I see Hybrid the new trendy buzzword for someone playing out of Position ? I wouldn’t even say he was playing any sort of hybrid role last night he was playing as a wide midfielder as his heat map shows 95% of his time was spent out wide , he was playing the hybrid role when he was fullback in a back 5, any player playing as a wide midfielder is expected to cover his fullback if he’s overlapping it’s nothing new it’s what you are expected to do. You play as a pair always have done and always will it’s for fuck all to do with some sexy hybrid position name , if the balls over opposite side of the pitch you come inside and oka central you don’t juts stand on the furthest touchline.

This fella said he stood about doing nowt and looked lost. Then changed it to he had a solid game after getting a canny ol rinsing. Although he's now said 3 of the last 5 he was piss poor. Although tbf he didn't even realise where he was playing. But the passing stats n that.

First half he was juts told out wide nobody was even passing to him as per when there is a bit defending to do he got better second half 71% pass completion playing midfield against then worst team in the league. Everton West Ham Brentford he was shite spurs 60 odd % pass completion he’s had 1 solid game against the worst side of the season and he’s getting hailed he was ok that’s it robin roefs could of played there last night man all he had to do was follow a few runs

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[ChrisK]

He is a very good RB, love his tackles... just don't try and make him a '10'

Think people are getting too tied up about positions here like.
Hume is playing in a defensive midfield type role or whatever you want to call the position it really doesn’t matter.
He is a key part to our solid defence, and is able to push forward to support midfield or drop back and allow fullbacks to push on it is working really well apart from West Ham 1st half.
Playing this way makes us hard to beat, and with a decent centre forward in place now we look a solid unit.
We don’t have the luxury of a big squad like established teams, so RLB is working a system with what he got.

 

[PS]

I'm still not sure what position he (mostly) plays now. Is he wide right in essentially a 4-5-1, but with license to roam?

 

[Fred]

As I said last night, I think he played the role very differently to how he did against West Ham. The balance of the team was a lot player playing Le Fee in the deeper role as he was very often there to support Hume in the defensive work in the CM area, meaning he could just track the LB more often than not.

He played a lot wider but still in field far enough for Nordi to offer the real width down the right. It worked really well last night and I'd expect to see it again at Arsenal.

 

[dangermows]

You can also find a player to do this that offers something in an attacking sense and can pass to someone in the same colour shirt
I see Hybrid the new trendy buzzword for someone playing out of Position ? I wouldn’t even say he was playing any sort of hybrid role last night he was playing as a wide midfielder as his heat map shows 95% of his time was spent out wide , he was playing the hybrid role when he was fullback in a back 5, any player playing as a wide midfielder is expected to cover his fullback if he’s overlapping it’s nothing new it’s what you are expected to do. You play as a pair always have done and always will.

We almost always line up with 4 at the back. Hume Right side of midfield and we will move to a back 5 when needed during most games.

So when people say dropping into full back as part of a 5 they aren't meaning covering the full back. They mean he becomes the full back, and the fella playing full back steps across as a centre half.

To say every wide player does this is osnt true as not every team is playing with a right back in midfield and not every team transitions from a back 4 to a back 5 during games.

The reason it's happening is because he is a defender truth be told, but is being played further up the pitch as he can do a job across the positions/pitch rather than we don't have anyone else to play RM.

Over time, if the manager wants to focus more on attacking, and stops looking to be so solid, fluid and set up where we can comfortably move from 4 to 5 and back again then you might see a change in personnel. But at present it's a big part of why we are where we are and why Hume continues to get picked.

I'm still not sure what position he (mostly) plays now. Is he wide right in essentially a 4-5-1, but with license to roam?

In simple terms, yes. With the manager confident in his ability to cover the right hand side and more centrally in a defensive sense, whilst still getting up the pitch too.

 

[Whitburnmakem]

Think people are getting too tied up about positions here like.
Hume is playing in a defensive midfield type role or whatever you want to call the position it really doesn’t matter.
He is a key part to our solid defence, and is able to push forward to support midfield or drop back and allow fullbacks to push on it is working really well apart from West Ham 1st half.
Playing this way makes us hard to beat, and with a decent centre forward in place now

We almost always line up with 4 at the back. Hume Right side of midfield and we will move to a back 5 when needed during most games.

So when people say dropping into full back as part of a 5 they aren't meaning covering the full back. They mean he becomes the full back, and the fella playing full back steps across as a centre half.

To say every wide player does this is osnt true as not every team is playing with a right back in midfield and not every team transitions from a back 4 to a back 5 during games.

The reason it's happening is because he is a defender truth be told, but is being played further up the pitch as he can do a job across the positions/pitch rather than we don't have anyone else to play RM.

Over time, if the manager wants to focus more on attacking, and stops looking to be so solid, fluid and set up where we can comfortably move from 4 to 5 and back again then you might see a change in personnel. But at present it's a big part of why we are where we are and why Hume continues to get picked.

In simple terms, yes. With the manager confident in his ability to cover the right hand side and more centrally in a defensive sense, whilst still getting up the pitch too.

I’m talking about last nights formation not previous games, I’m fully aware of his role. I don’t need you to explain roles and formations to me ! last night he didn’t play that way he was an orthodox wide midfielder, he plays as a hybrid midfielder when it’s a back 5 and tucks into centre midfield when we have the ball that wasn’t his role last night as the heat map shows

 

[dangermows]

I’m talking about last nights formation not previous games, I’m fully aware of his role. I don’t need you to explain roles and formations to me ! last night he didn’t play that way he was an orthodox wide midfielder, he plays as a hybrid midfielder when it’s a back 5 and tucks into centre midfield when we have the ball that wasn’t his role last night as the heat map shows

Oh I think I do. For a start you thought he lined up as a right back at Spurs. He didn't.

You aren't just talking about last night as you keep on with your pass stat obsession from other games and claimed he was shite in 3 of the last 5.

It was his role last night. It always is. The game simply didn't transpire in a way we needed him to drop into a 5. He is picked for eventualities. Game going well, no need to drop in as part of a 5. Game not going well or pressure building, drop in as part of a 5.

That versatility, during a game, is why he keeps getting picked.

It'll sink in eventually.

Hume is pivotal to this team, him playing in that hybrid role allows Mukiele to give us width ,Enzo and Diarra to get closer to Brobbey and with Talbi playing a bit narrower from the left we have a real goal threat now. When we are out of possession Hume makes a back five, Reg has either had a stroke of genius or stumbled on masterplan that improves us no end.

Yup. Might change eventually. But as it stands, spot on.

 

[Whitburnmakem]

Oh I think I do. For a start you thought he lined up as a right back at Spurs. He didn't.

You aren't just talking about last night as you keep on with your pass stat obsession from other games and claimed he was shite in 3 of the last 5.

It was his role last night. It always is. The game simply didn't transpire in a way we needed him to drop into a 5. He is picked for eventualities. Game going well, no need to drop in as part of a 5. Game not going well or pressure building, drop in as part of a 5.

That versatility, during a game, is why he keeps getting picked.

It'll sink in eventually.

Yup. Might change eventually. But as it stands, spot on.

His role last night was to play right midfield and cover mukiele when he goes forward , it was nowt like how he’s previously been set up against the bigger teams, why the fuck would we have him or us playing at any stage a back 5 against Burnley

Oh I think I do. For a start you thought he lined up as a right back at Spurs. He didn't.

You aren't just talking about last night as you keep on with your pass stat obsession from other games and claimed he was shite in 3 of the last 5.

It was his role last night. It always is. The game simply didn't transpire in a way we needed him to drop into a 5. He is picked for eventualities. Game going well, no need to drop in as part of a 5. Game not going well or pressure building, drop in as part of a 5.

That versatility, during a game, is why he keeps getting picked.

It'll sink in eventually.

Yup. Might change eventually. But as it stands, spot on.

Your talking as if this is revolutionary man any wide midfielder is expected to come back and defend when your backs are against the wall

 

[ChrisK]

I’m talking about last nights formation not previous games, I’m fully aware of his role. I don’t need you to explain roles and formations to me ! last night he didn’t play that way he was an orthodox wide midfielder, he plays as a hybrid midfielder when it’s a back 5 and tucks into centre midfield when we have the ball that wasn’t his role last night as the heat map shows

Really can’t see your problem with him,
Or the system we are playing, having watched us for over 50 years got too say, it’s up there with the best defence we have ever had.
And like it or not Hume is a big part of it.