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How do you feel about the Ashes?


Torn really - one half wouldn’t blame players for not wanting to go, the other half thinks they’re getting paid mega money and should suck it up for what should be the biggest series of the next 3 years and possibly the last ashes trip down under for a lot of them.

My suspicion is that the players also think they’ll get destroyed tbh, and if we were favourites I doubt anyone would be withdrawing.

Buttlers whinging in the media is really annoying tbh, comes across as very entitled
 
Call it controversial, but I think the Ashes should go ahead and I think the players should grow a pair and go and play. There was a time not long ago when international cricketers toured without their families - I don’t see why it’s now such a problem for them to spend 6 weeks away doing their job.
 
Call it controversial, but I think the Ashes should go ahead and I think the players should grow a pair and go and play. There was a time not long ago when international cricketers toured without their families - I don’t see why it’s now such a problem for them to spend 6 weeks away doing their job.
I’m of a similar view. I get the mental health arguments. But they get paid a fortune (not that impacts mental health). Plenty of others do their jobs away from their families without getting the compensation
 
I’m of a similar view. I get the mental health arguments. But they get paid a fortune (not that impacts mental health). Plenty of others do their jobs away from their families without getting the compensation

That’s what I was getting at, I’m not wishing to make fun of anyone’s mental well-being but they’re not the only sportsmen who spend large amounts of time away from home and they’ll be very well looked after and very handsomely paid in the process.
 
That’s what I was getting at, I’m not wishing to make fun of anyone’s mental well-being but they’re not the only sportsmen who spend large amounts of time away from home and they’ll be very well looked after and very handsomely paid in the process.
But it's more than just being away from their family, it's looking likely that they'll spend a considerable length of time in a hotel room on their own. I know it was longer through lockdown but I totally get the cabin fever and they'll have spent a lot of time doing this over the last 18 months. Everyone has a breaking point.
 
But it's more than just being away from their family, it's looking likely that they'll spend a considerable length of time in a hotel room on their own. I know it was longer through lockdown but I totally get the cabin fever and they'll have spent a lot of time doing this over the last 18 months. Everyone has a breaking point.
Indeed. And if it’s really state to state I get it.

but as a one off, they’d do it for for riches of the IPL
 
Indeed. And if it’s really state to state I get it.

but as a one off, they’d do it for for riches of the IPL
Yeah and if it was a one off I'm sure they'd go to the Ashes but it isn't. I bet when they did the IPL last year they thought 'things will be ok by next summer' then during this season they'll have thought 'it'll be ok by the time we get to Australia'. I totally agree that players have chased the money at times but a fair few of them, English and otherwise, have decided to skip this IPL. I really think the players are being worn down by it all.
 
That’s what I was getting at, I’m not wishing to make fun of anyone’s mental well-being but they’re not the only sportsmen who spend large amounts of time away from home and they’ll be very well looked after and very handsomely paid in the process.
You're absolutely right, BUT I'd add the caveat that this isn't like a normal tour.

If I had a wife and kids and went away for a few months, I'd miss them but find a way to occupy my mind.
Normally on a Tour, the players would be training every day, and on the days off they'd be playing golf, sightseeing, going to the bar, doing usual touristy stuff.

They haven't got that luxury. They're going to be spending an insane amount of time sitting in their rooms with fuck all to do, and eventually you'll overthink.
I know for me, if I had, say, young kids, and I had every day for ten days or so every time I moved state sitting in my room doing nothing, and even once that has passed on the days where I'm not in the nets or whatever I can't go out and do stuff, I'm lying on my bed again, it'd wear me down. I'd start to overthink, start to worry, the anxiety would kick in, I'd start to struggle.

These lads will be no different.
 
Urgh seen paine’s comments this morning

he is such a twat

he won’t even travel to Queensland to play in a Sheffield shield game yet England have to come apparently

my view has changed on the test players

for me, Morgan has been poor in this pandemic and won’t make any sacrifices at all unless it’s IPL

root and co have been in a lot more bubbles fo 2 years in really high pressure situations

I don’t think you can expect them to be holed up in a backwards country that shuts down whole states after 4 cases
Torn really - one half wouldn’t blame players for not wanting to go, the other half thinks they’re getting paid mega money and should suck it up for what should be the biggest series of the next 3 years and possibly the last ashes trip down under for a lot of them.

My suspicion is that the players also think they’ll get destroyed tbh, and if we were favourites I doubt anyone would be withdrawing.

Buttlers whinging in the media is really annoying tbh, comes across as very entitled

Don’t agree with the last bit like

we already had 7 away tests this year!! 7!

ausyralia have had 0 in 2 years

I don’t think they’ll be even thinking about results at this stage.

there’s zero chance Ben stokes is going, and that’s not based on if he thinks we will win is it
 
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Urgh seen paine’s comments this morning

he is such a twat

he won’t even travel to Queensland to play in a Sheffield shield game yet England have to come apparently

my view has changed on the test players

for me, Morgan has been poor in this pandemic and won’t make any sacrifices at all unless it’s IPL

root and co have been in a lot more bubbles fo 2 years in really high pressure situations

I don’t think you can expect them to be holed up in a backwards country that shuts down whole states after 4 cases


Don’t agree with the last bit like

we already had 7 away tests this year!! 7!

ausyralia have had 0 in 2 years

I don’t think they’ll be even thinking about results at this stage.

there’s zero chance Ben stokes is going, and that’s not based on if he thinks we will win is it
I think ben Stokes is somewhat different, as he’ll have missed a whole half a year of cricket by the winter. Not really comparable at all. The amount of away games is neither here nor there tbh - none of them had issue quarantining for the IPL. Wonder what incentive they could’ve had for that…
 
I think ben Stokes is somewhat different, as he’ll have missed a whole half a year of cricket by the winter. Not really comparable at all. The amount of away games is neither here nor there tbh - none of them had issue quarantining for the IPL. Wonder what incentive they could’ve had for that…

haha what? :lol: It’s not here or there at all. They’ve been in bubbles a large amount of the year

Australia haven’t

of course it’s relevant

who was at IPL??

99% of the players weren’t.

basic lack of understanding the situation like here mate
 
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haha what? :lol: It’s not here or there at all. They’ve been in bubbles a large amount of the year

Australia haven’t

of course it’s relevant

who was at IPL??

99% of the players weren’t.

basic lack of understanding the situation like here mate
The first time round, when it all kicked off, most of the usual suspects were there and happy to quarantine into and out of India. They also get paid vast sums of money to play sport - hardly being chained up and forced to do proper labour or anything - it should be a privilege to play for your country and get away to fit for the biggest prize in the sport. One that most of us here would give our left bollock to have. Sorry if I have little sympathy for them being away from home for a while. And they stop playing and sit with their feet up from early to mid 30s

Perhaps you should make up some stupid statistic to support your point.
 
I’m of a similar view. I get the mental health arguments. But they get paid a fortune (not that impacts mental health). Plenty of others do their jobs away from their families without getting the compensation
If it's a normal tour schedule with a bit of quarantine at the front then that's one thing. It would be a tough tour, they would be stuck in a bubble for two months and there's not much open in Oz at the minute to break up to boredom. But I'm sure they could think of something, there's time to plan.

If the Oz government insist on quarantine when travelling between states then cancel it. You can't force people to spend days on end in isolation then expect them to come out and play to their best. There'd be little time for practice either, it would be pretty much playing xBox or playing Test matches. We'd get slaughtered, even with a full side.
 
The first time round, when it all kicked off, most of the usual suspects were there and happy to quarantine into and out of India. They also get paid vast sums of money to play sport - hardly being chained up and forced to do proper labour or anything - it should be a privilege to play for your country and get away to fit for the biggest prize in the sport. One that most of us here would give our left bollock to have. Sorry if I have little sympathy for them being away from home for a while. And they stop playing and sit with their feet up from early to mid 30s

Perhaps you should make up some stupid statistic to support your point.

what an absolutely awful post. Not even gonna provide it with a response as its utter garbage,:lol:
 
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