Hales and Stokes

[HABA87]

So why no headline about the lads waving bottles and metal poles? Why no headline that someone was found to be a proven liar in this case? All very convenient from the bbc.

The doorman wasn't on trial.
Did he lie, or did he just forget something, in the same way that Ben Stokes forgot about his Jagerbombs?

I haven't got the time to pick the bones out of the entire BBC website, but here's a couple of positive headlines for Ben Stokes, both from the BBC.

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There was no media campaign against Stokes led by the BBC.
The BBC were simply reporting on what was occurring in court.

 

[Comeback_Kenwyne]

He's been found not guilty. If the ECB ban him now (not forgetting his suspension in the winter) it would be completely farcical. He wasn't breaking curfew, he was allowed out for a few drink then got into a scuffle with a couple of knobheads. The court of the land says he hasn't done anything wrong.

Watch them ban him like the f***ing stiffs they are

He's been punished enough. If you're found not guilty in a court of law and have already been withheld from your profession then you would normally be entitled to compensation, let alone further punishment.

 

[Bri]

After the verdict Stokes held his hand out to Ali in court. Ali took it and they shook hands. All over. (unless the ECB wants to start going "look at me look at me")

 

[abbs]

Again, I’m no expert but in the case of most average Joe Publics, would the offenders not just be banged to rights and advised to accept charges at magistrates court due to not having the financial resources to defend themselves further?

Legal defence is free ,
plods would try to get someone to accept a caution to get rid of the job and get a detected crime on the figures ,

 

[HarryChest]

Just as I said all along

Some laughable comments on here, you know who you are

And he missed the ashes for f***ing nothing

A complete non story

Can you honestly say that you don’t think he did anything wrong?

 

[Herberthall]

Certain parts of the press predetermined his guilt, from his solicitor.

 

[Brexit]

A jury was presented with all the evidence, not just what the media wanted us to see, and all 3 were acquitted. That'll do for me.

 

[Liverpool Beachball]

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[HABA87]

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It probably got all the way to 3 on the flow.

 

[Tongey]

apparently the CPS tried to add on charges on the 1st day of the trial, but judge said it was too late.

 

[HABA87]

In the squad for the 3rd test.

 

[Liverpool Beachball]

In the squad for the 3rd test.

Doubt he’ll play like, neither Woakes or Curran deserve to be dropped and I can’t see Buttler being dropped yet

 

[Jonny Ringo]

So why no headline about the lads waving bottles and metal poles? Why no headline that someone was found to be a proven liar in this case? All very convenient from the bbc.

Out of interest, how was the bouncer proved to be a liar in court? I'm genuinely asking this btw as I missed that. In answer to your question, quoting what is said in court is permissible. Accusing someone of having been proved to be a liar would prejudice the trial and amount to contempt.

I was having a chat with my brother about this - he's a barrister and head of crime in his chambers so knows what he's talking about. He's very happy about this from a cricketing point of view but thinks Stokes should be buying a lottery ticket tonight as he's been very fortunate.

 

[Mrjardine]

Some folk on here are buzzing their tits off which is even more bizarre.

Why? I think he’s been a lucky lad but I’m over moon he’s back in the fold and this can be put to bed.

 

[Lord Potts]

Out of interest, how was the bouncer proved to be a liar in court? I'm genuinely asking this btw as I missed that. In answer to your question, quoting what is said in court is permissible. Accusing someone of having been proved to be a liar would prejudice the trial and amount to contempt.

I was having a chat with my brother about this - he's a barrister and head of crime in his chambers so knows what he's talking about. He's very happy about this from a cricketing point of view but thinks Stokes should be buying a lottery ticket tonight as he's been very fortunate.

No disrespect to you learned brother but I don't think that you need to be qualified at the Bar to figure out that Stokes has been bloody lucky. But there again what's a broken eye socket and two KO's to a sporting celebrity? Its seems to be part of their everyday life.

 

[Jonny Ringo]

No disrespect to you learned brother but I don't think that you need to be qualified at the Bar to figure out that Stokes has been bloody lucky. But there again what's a broken eye socket and two KO's to a sporting celebrity? Its seems to be part of their everyday life.

Oh, please feel free to disrespect him.

What baffled him the most was Hales' exclusion from the prosecution. Kicking someone in the head when they're on the ground is almost always jail-time.

 

[Jack Torrance]

Doubt he’ll play like, neither Woakes or Curran deserve to be dropped and I can’t see Buttler being dropped yet

If he's in the squad he plays.

 

[smoker]

Not guilty, up yours moralisers.

 

[GordonMuchallNo1Fan]

Out of interest, how was the bouncer proved to be a liar in court? I'm genuinely asking this btw as I missed that. In answer to your question, quoting what is said in court is permissible. Accusing someone of having been proved to be a liar would prejudice the trial and amount to contempt.

I was having a chat with my brother about this - he's a barrister and head of crime in his chambers so knows what he's talking about. He's very happy about this from a cricketing point of view but thinks Stokes should be buying a lottery ticket tonight as he's been very fortunate.

The bouncer months ago gave a police statement stating he had reviewed CCTV footage................. In court last week he said "this is the first time I've viewed the CCTV footage". Stokes' solicitor was all over it & when quizzed about it, replied "I'm unable to explain that"

 

[Jonny Ringo]

The bouncer months ago gave a police statement stating he had reviewed CCTV footage................. In court last week he said "this is the first time I've viewed the CCTV footage". Stokes' solicitor was all over it & when quizzed about it, replied "I'm unable to explain that"

Cheers. I suspect a jury would find it fairly easy to disbelieve the word of a doorman. Something like that would certainly help.