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Getting promoted - do we actually want it?

JL1985 said:
I'd like the initial happiness and excitement of promotion but when the days of getting beat 6-0 at home from Brentford and getting relegated with 8 points come, it will be awful.
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exactly this, be like Lowry characters making way across bridge to game , even the most optimisitic must think we wont get more than 10 points.
 

Binxy said:
People saying they don't want to go up are using it as their comfort blanket.
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Agree, and it’s down to this result driven mentality.
Leaving the ground when we go 0-2 down etc. don’t want to be around when we lose.
Things are very polarised these days.

The away fans at least used to enjoy the whole experience, maybe even that is changing now??

There will be a lot to enjoy about being in the Prem, once people can get past the fact we will lose most of the games.
Then a great year in the Championship to follow.
 
Wearson said:
Agree, and it’s down to this result driven mentality.
Leaving the ground when we go 0-2 down etc. don’t want to be around when we lose.
Things are very polarised these days.

The away fans at least used to enjoy the whole experience, maybe even that is changing now??

There will be a lot to enjoy about being in the Prem, once people can get past the fact we will lose most of the games.
Then a great year in the Championship to follow.
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I think many people are relying to much on the team for being happy.
Its sport some teams are at the top some at the bottom.
The idea is just to support your team, you can’t demand anything.
Whatever happened to Sunderland fans sense of pride and positivity. Who can forget Man City away in 91.Norwich League Cup Final in 85.As Barry Davies said that day ‘Look at that ….That’s support for you’
 
The Premier League is boring as fuck but we have to go up to have the competitive seasons in the Championship. An exciting season in the Championship every other year would do me. What bothers me is people on here wanting rid of the manager because we aren't competing with the Mags while we are in the Premier League.
 
Karlsson said:
Issue is though we will lose practically our entire midfield if we don’t go up.

Think we can all accept there’s no chance of us keeping Jobe if we stay in the Championship and probably Rigg too. Plus Cirkin and Neil are apparently refusing to sign new deals until they know what league will be in next season so there’s no way we won’t cash in before their deals expire next summer.

Thats a lot of cash in the bank but there’s no way I could see us investing enough of it to improve on our current position. Plus given any replacements would likely be more inexperienced projects with potential then we’d effectively be taking a step back.
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Our entire midfield isn’t anywhere near PL standard so we would need to lose them anyway
 
Darlo1973 said:
If Daniel Farke is his replacement then I could accept that as an upgrade but I wouldn't want to see him sacked just for the sake of it and replaced with another Championship plodder.
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Farke described as arguably the most successful manager in Championship history

Maybe Derby get relegated and go for Eustace

I like the Plymouth bloke but hard to tell if he's any good given the post-Rooney mess he inherited

Other than that. Another random foreign coach in the hope one eventually works like a lot of clubs
 
AmblerThorn said:
Farke described as arguably the most successful manager in Championship history

Maybe Derby get relegated and go for Eustace

I like the Plymouth bloke but hard to tell if he's any good given the post-Rooney mess he inherited

Other than that. Another random foreign coach in the hope one eventually works like a lot of clubs
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That bloke at Wrexham seems to have done a good job. Phil Something....
 
HitchBerg said:
Of course not, you'd have to be out of your mind.

Was just curious if anyone knew if it was in the rules that you could turn down promotion, maybe as a protest perhaps.
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I remember Bath requesting to be relegated to the National North from the National Conference as they said costs were too high. They got it.
 
gatopreto said:
That's the key word - compete. People don't think we will compete. Like the 3 who have went down, they haven't really been competitive.
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It would be thoroughly miserable.
An initial euphoria would be replaced by despair and eventually anger at the board, the manager and the players, probably by the end of September.

As for the money…that’s not sport and it’s not why most people watch football. We’d probably have to go through at least two cycles of promotion and relegation for it to make much of a difference and we’d see a much more rapid churn of players.
 
HitchBerg said:
Of course not, you'd have to be out of your mind.

Was just curious if anyone knew if it was in the rules that you could turn down promotion, maybe as a protest perhaps.
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It happens quite often with teams in the Scottish Highland League turning down the chance of promotion because the travel costs are too high.
 
I'd be far keener to get promoted now if I had faith Speakman would then recruit the quality needed, RLB could rise to the challenge, and KLD was prepared to spend the extra required to overhaul the squad. As it is I think we're too weak, underprepared, and promotion could turn into a total nightmare. I'd take another season (even two) in the championship to strengthen and then either force our way into the automatics or finish much closer to them. If that means binning off RLB/Speakman to achieve that then so be it. Sure, we'll lose a few players but re-invest wisely and we can keep moving forward. I'm in no hurry to get battered week in/week out in the Prem and currently I fear thats all that will happen.
 
Good Teeth Keith said:
Watching the Premier highlights and seeing Ipswich put up no fight against the Mags, I’m not sure how we go from getting turned over by Oxford and Blackburn to competing with established Premier League teams in a couple of months.

This team has some talent but it is miles off being able to compete in the PL. I honestly wouldn’t mind another season in this league and letting the young players develop and hopefully continue to improve.

I’m not sure I would enjoy a season of getting battered like Leicester, Ipswich and Southampton have had. Maybe these last few weeks are just sucking the life/positivity out of me.
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We would need 15 signings

That is scary and no idea whether we would either commit to that or even realise it’s necessary

We probably have 4 players who could play at that level properly and of those 3 will need time to develop
 
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