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Getting promoted - do we actually want it?

Norwich have recently had parachute money. They fucked up. Sure Boro had parachute payments as well. Ipswich went up without them as did we in 2019-20. Our non parachute payment revenue is £85m.

Hang on. Just when did parachute money even become a thing? I don’t remember it being even talked about when we went up.
 

Winning the Championship play-off would almost certainly be the best footballing day of my life (50+). So, yes please to promotion, I'll worry about the Prem in August.
 
doesnt matter really in footballing terms, its a clsoed shop desgined to keep teams out, what it does do for the business though is guarantees income for years to come

so bank the cash!
 
Financially for the club it's massive. It allows us to shop in a different market to what we are currently, attract better players, offer more lucrative contracts than we are to perhaps retain our best players.
Obviously it's unlikely we'd stay up, so from a fans perspective I can see why some would be happy to remain where we are as you look at likes of Southampton who have had miserable seasons, and it can't be fun.
But the bottom line is if that was to happen to us, we'd still be in a much better position to kick on from there than if we remain in the Championship. And more often than not, teams that come down find themselves back in the promotion mix the following season.
 
How many loans can we get? Need 2 top quality loans. Maybes 50 million on centre half, right wing, defensive mid, forward
 
Farke described as arguably the most successful manager in Championship history

Maybe Derby get relegated and go for Eustace

I like the Plymouth bloke but hard to tell if he's any good given the post-Rooney mess he inherited

Other than that. Another random foreign coach in the hope one eventually works like a lot of clubs

The fact that the bloke at Plymouth has even got them as close as they are suggests he's got something about him.
 
We can't choose who owns the club, runs it daily or coaches the team. All we can do is hope and support, hope to be promoted then hope to stay up. There are no real negatives to being promoted, at best maybe we're the next Aston Villa or Forest, at worst we are Southampton and come back to where we are right now.
 
Short answer from me, absolutely yes. Unless there’s massive investment in the squad though I can’t see it being much fun most weeks. Best case scenario is we stay up, reset with a few quid behind us and start to establish ourselves as a premier league club. Worst case is that we get relegated, bag the parachute money and get a good run at automatic promotion the season after.
 
Watching the Premier highlights and seeing Ipswich put up no fight against the Mags, I’m not sure how we go from getting turned over by Oxford and Blackburn to competing with established Premier League teams in a couple of months.

This team has some talent but it is miles off being able to compete in the PL. I honestly wouldn’t mind another season in this league and letting the young players develop and hopefully continue to improve.

I’m not sure I would enjoy a season of getting battered like Leicester, Ipswich and Southampton have had. Maybe these last few weeks are just sucking the life/positivity out of me.
Financially yes. From a match day experience no.
If Sunderland aren't promoted then I would hope he would be gone.
Depends on other factors, not least ownership.
Eh??

Massively overachieved this season and keeping him would bring some stability to a club that has gone through about 25 managers since Peter Reid was sacked in 2002. Absolutely no basis for sacking him, none at all
 
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Financially yes. From a match day experience no.

Eh??

Massively overachieved this season and keeping him would bring some stability to a club that has gone through about 25 managers since Peter Reid was sacked in 2002. Absolutely no basis for sacking him, none at all
how have we? watson has already been sold. bellingham, riggs, hume and neil all have prem and top flight european clubs after them thats nearly half of our starting 11. we failed because of his tactics of passing the ball about amongst the midfield hoping we would create an opening and over the last 4-5 months every team has figured this out. not signing a striker was a massive mistake aswell because isidor is average and mayenda is too young and raw.
The fact that the bloke at Plymouth has even got them as close as they are suggests he's got something about him.
Rooney would struggle at tier 5 and 6 as a manager hes thick as mince
 
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If we go up: Yesssss! That's where we belong! We can do it! Let's show them! etc...
If we stay down: Hate VAR! It''s just moneyball! Never wanted to go up anyway!
 
there's not like. give me bristol, millwall, sheff wed, qpr etc. over anything in the premier league.
proper clubs not riddled with tourists like most in the pl.
We'll have to disagree then. There's some absolute stinkers which are twatful to get to: Norwich, Ipswich, Southampton, Portsmouth, Swansea.
I'd argue Sheff Wed is nowt flash, then the utterly boring trips to Coventry, Blackburn, Stoke,etc.
I'll happily take the premier league with plenty of weekends in London and trips the North West big cities. Also premier league game times not exactly ideal but loads better than the gash kick off times we now get in the champ.
 
We'll have to disagree then. There's some absolute stinkers which are twatful to get to: Norwich, Ipswich, Southampton, Portsmouth, Swansea.
I'd argue Sheff Wed is nowt flash, then the utterly boring trips to Coventry, Blackburn, Stoke,etc.
I'll happily take the premier league with plenty of weekends in London and trips the North West big cities. Also premier league game times not exactly ideal but loads better than the gash kick off times we now get in the champ.
i'll agree to disagree like.
london games are ok but i doubt many would be on a saturday at 3 and more likely stupid times/days for people to get to and just to appease the tv paymasters.
 
i'll agree to disagree like.
london games are ok but i doubt many would be on a saturday at 3 and more likely stupid times/days for people to get to and just to appease the tv paymasters.
See I think we would have a lot more 3pm games in the prem as no fucker would be interested in watching us. I know there will still be some daft kick offs but the amount this year has been obscene. I mean who in there right mind thinks it's a good idea to have 3 champ games as 12.30 kick off each week?
Anyway we are digressing, could be a moot point but for me hopefully we get back up.
 
Watching the Premier highlights and seeing Ipswich put up no fight against the Mags, I’m not sure how we go from getting turned over by Oxford and Blackburn to competing with established Premier League teams in a couple of months.

This team has some talent but it is miles off being able to compete in the PL. I honestly wouldn’t mind another season in this league and letting the young players develop and hopefully continue to improve.

I’m not sure I would enjoy a season of getting battered like Leicester, Ipswich and Southampton have had. Maybe these last few weeks are just sucking the life/positivity out of me.
If you notice top 3 teams have competition on the bench pushing for first team starts and can change a game we haven't that's why we persist with the same players all the time and only make changes when we have injuries as fir being a Premier League team and competing I'd buy at least another 10 players that are of a higher level our first 11 will get pumped every week gap is massive
 
If you notice top 3 teams have competition on the bench pushing for first team starts and can change a game we haven't that's why we persist with the same players all the time and only make changes when we have injuries as fir being a Premier League team and competing I'd buy at least another 10 players that are of a higher level our first 11 will get pumped every week gap is massive
I think that only Hume and Le Fee are ready to play Premier League football next season, none of the rest would get into other prem teams and play regularly. FTM
 
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