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England v India - 2nd Test, Trent Bridge

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Kborom said:
TMS talking about a declaration!
Surely best to bat through tomorrow morning as far as possible, and still have a full 5 sessions after that to get them out.
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Sky mentioned it too, nowhere near declaration time. I'd say it would have to be 2.40pm at the EARLIEST. That being an hour before Tea.
 
Arkle said:
Yep - declaration would have to be at something well over a 450 lead for me.
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The last test Strauss played it so he had another runs to keep his attacking field throughout the innings. This is the right way to play it.
 
I reckon we will get to around 400 or just over tomorrow. Get some quick runs and declare, then there's 2 days to bowl India out.
 
andymc said:
I reckon we will get to around 400 or just over tomorrow. Get some quick runs and declare, then there's 2 days to bowl India out.
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Strauss is far too cautious to declare with India having a chance of winning. He will only declare if he knows there is no chance of India winning.
 
dixonsafc said:
Strauss is far too cautious to declare with India having a chance of winning. He will only declare if he knows there is no chance of India winning.
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Might just be me, but I don't see India getting 400, Strauss might. Like what they said before on Sky, Strauss trusts his bowlers, so England will keep on batting positively. Like you said we will declare whenever Strauss is confident and doesn't see a way back for India. 400 declared is just my IMO, but I wouldn't be surprised to see us declare near 500 at lunch.
 
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andymc said:
Might just be me, but I don't see India getting 400, Strauss might. Like what they said before on Sky, Strauss trusts his bowlers, so England will keep on batting positively. Like you said we will declare whenever Strauss is confident and doesn't see a way back for India. 400 declared is just my IMO, but I wouldn't be surprised to see us declare near 500 at lunch.
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I dont think they will either, I think 400 will be enough.

But Strauss wont declare 400 ahead, no chance. It's not how he captains, he's more safety first.
 
dixonsafc said:
I dont think they will either, I think 400 will be enough.

But Strauss wont declare 400 ahead, no chance. It's not how he captains, he's more safety first.
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It's a test match, you don't give the opposition a sniff.

If the Indians got two batsmen in they could absolutely romp to 400. If time wasn't on our side I could understand but 5 sessions is more than enough to bowl a side out.
 
Dexter said:
It's a test match, you don't give the opposition a sniff.

If the Indians got two batsmen in they could absolutely romp to 400. If time wasn't on our side I could understand but 5 sessions is more than enough to bowl a side out.
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Strauss won't declare until England are 450 plus ahead. If all goes to plan that will be by about lunch.
 
Mainze said:
Strauss won't declare until England are 450 plus ahead. If all goes to plan that will be by about lunch.
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Best series, quality wise, since india last visited.
I think they will push for 500 lead at lunch, leaving 5 sessions to tempt India at 100 runs per session for them to win.
 
Hopefully bat until lunch tomorrow, if we're batting at the pace we did in the final session today we will have a lead of at least 450. Stick them in after lunch and have 5 sessions to bowl them out. They'd probably have to bat at a decent rate to get 450 in 5 sessions too.

And will this pitch deteriorate and bring Swann into the equation?
 
Wouldn't declare until 500 lead personally.

As for the Bell incident, and apologies if going over old ground, but at first viewing I thought he was out because the first view of the fielding you could see that the ball hadn't crossed the boundary. Bell should have known better and his excuse after the day that he was "in a bit of a hurry" showed a bit of naivety (sp). While admirable, Dhoni shouldn't have withdrawn his appeal. Bell was out, and should have remained out.

Andy.SAFC said:
Hopefully bat until lunch tomorrow, if we're batting at the pace we did in the final session today we will have a lead of at least 450. Stick them in after lunch and have 5 sessions to bowl them out. They'd probably have to bat at a decent rate to get 450 in 5 sessions too.

And will this pitch deteriorate and bring Swann into the equation?
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Nope. Traditionally at TB the pitch gets better. Green to start with, then when the grass goes it's nice and flat. Sky put some of the chases up and there's been a fair few 350+ successes with only 2 or 3 down. Need to take full advantage by ensuring we have enough runs in the bank to not lose before we think about winning - which we should be doing from here.
 
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