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CissesUnderpants19 said:
This is what I mean we did that then, Di Fanti happens and it's goes from needs correcting to malfunctioning club gone mad
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I'm digging into this a bit more right now
CissesUnderpants19 said:
This is what I mean we did that then, Di Fanti happens and it's goes from needs correcting to malfunctioning club gone mad
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I've just checked - De Fanti may have brought in many players, and most of them wrong, but he only committed £18m doing it. Now Congerton is a different matter, committing £48m during the period he and Poyet were in charge.
 

Johnsafc said:
Brought in Ki, Mannone and Borini for virtually nowt. Could have added Mendy too I know he had another of poor signings but we were scraping the barrel with the fees that we were paying out
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RDF boned himself by sorting the squad signings first and gambling he could shift big earners to help with the main ones.
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
I'm digging into this a bit more right now


I've just checked - De Fanti may have brought in many players, and most of them wrong, but he only committed £18m doing it. Now Congerton is a different matter, committing £48m during the period he and Poyet were in charge.
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He just about killed a German club as well, sounds a right chancer
 
Baz said:
Totally spot on reply. Don't get what some people can't grasp about our situation. The club is fucked and needed to change before it become irreversible. We couldn't continue the way we were doing.....it's shit, but it's where we are now.
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It's not that people don't grasp the situation, it's that they don't agree with their solution.

The email mentions player trading - how Short has had to fund new signings from his own pocket because we make losses on every transfer.

We're presumably still running at a loss but we don't have many saleable assets left either. Ndong would command a decent fee but still less than what we owe in 'legacy payments'. Cattermole's value is at its lowest since we signed him. We'd be lucky to break even on Oviedo and we'd make small profits/losses either way on Steele, Vaughan, McGeady, McManaman etc.

That only leaves Kone who will surely leave sooner rather than later anyway.

Then what happens? We're struggling at the bottom of the Championship as it is and fans are sick at it is.

With even a small amount of money invested in the summer we could have signed a striker to at least remain competitive.

The reality of the situation that Bain and Short need to grasp is we'll be playing in front of 10-15k next season if we're still in this position next season.

Which is likely to cost the club and Short more in the long run?
 
Definitely Maybe said:
It's not that people don't grasp the situation, it's that they don't agree with their solution.

The email mentions player trading - how Short has had to fund new signings from his own pocket because we make losses on every transfer.

We're presumably still running at a loss but we don't have many saleable assets left either. Ndong would command a decent fee but still less than what we owe in 'legacy payments'. Cattermole's value is at its lowest since we signed him. We'd be lucky to break even on Oviedo and we'd make small profits/losses either way on Steele, Vaughan, McGeady, McManaman etc.

That only leaves Kone who will surely leave sooner rather than later anyway.

Then what happens? We're struggling at the bottom of the Championship as it is and fans are sick at it is.

With even a small amount of money invested in the summer we could have signed a striker to at least remain competitive.

The reality of the situation that Bain and Short need to grasp is we'll be playing in front of 10-15k next season if we're still in this position next season.

Which is likely to cost the club and Short more in the long run?
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While there's truth in that, at some point you have to make a rule and stick to it. If we've said financial stability and not spending beyond our means are key then we'd struggle to excuse behaviour that goes outside of this. Otherwise we can always find an excuse to continue - be it injury, player form, a deal that just too much of 'a bargain' and so on.
 
stephen cartwright said:
Do safc not receive the £100 million in total of parachute payments, over the next four seasons guaranteed?

A figure which has been widely reported as the reward that a play off promoted team gets, on finishing bottom the following season?
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Think it's 47m this season, 38m next, 19m the year after then nothing.
 
The Cabbage said:
While there's truth in that, at some point you have to make a rule and stick to it. If we've said financial stability and not spending beyond our means are key then we'd struggle to excuse behaviour that goes outside of this. Otherwise we can always find an excuse to continue - be it injury, player form, a deal that just too much of 'a bargain' and so on.
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Nobody is saying spend £10m though, but I disagree that you have to have a rule then stick to it.

Two of the key points from that email are that Short wants to fund growth not losses and we have to generate money from player trading going forward.

So to me, it's a given that we first and foremost need value for money from our signings. Was Steele value for money? Vaughan?

I think they're cheap dross personally, and in Steele's case we'd already identified a better keeper in Ruiter who was available for free.

It makes no sense at all to flat out refuse to spend more than £2m and leave ourselves woefully short up front and potentially fighting relegation to League One. It's another gamble for short term results (that being slightly healthier accounts next year but at what price?)
 
Pepe said:
Very good email which should close the book on this, but it won't because many people are unable to accept our predicament.
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It's got much worse (especially our transfer dealing) under the fella who tells us it must get better :lol:

As Ronald Reagan used to say... "Where's the beef"
 
G Force said:
He might not have 'taken a penny from the club', however his fuck ups have cost the clubs tens of millions and left us in this state.

It's been his boardroom/staff appointments that have been an utter disaster. From Byrne to Congerton to Di Fanti to the jobs for his mates. @shepherd88 step forward :lol:
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He has taken a penny as his monumental incompetence saw us struggle in the Prem for years before the inevitable relegation from the richest league on the planet.....I couldnt care less whether he pocketed £55 million or we were £55 million worse off due to relegation, either way it means we have a transfer budget of £1.5 million having sold all the family silver.
 
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