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It's a corrupted industry unfortunately, Education. Is it easier than 30 years ago? Probabaly, more students entering Uni means more profit. Asian students barely able to speak English are accepted after they take one of the "path-finder" courses, for money. I spoke to some proffessors from an Irish Uni who were on an exchange with the Uni in China I was working at. They admitted that the Asian students scores got "fudged" and in China they gave eight lectures a day...none of them wanted to be in China but it was a temporary agreement.
Ok,but I really wanted your mam to be my first 🫤 but your suggestion is sensible,thanks Amber,your great,it’s a thumbs up from me 👍🏻
What trickery is this?
 
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It's a corrupted industry unfortunately, Education. Is it easier than 30 years ago? Probabaly, more students entering Uni means more profit. Asian students barely able to speak English are accepted after they take one of the "path-finder" courses, for money. I spoke to some proffessors from an Irish Uni who were on an exchange with the Uni in China I was working at. They admitted that the Asian students scores got "fudged" and in China they gave eight lectures a day...none of them wanted to be in China but it was a temporary agreement.
Yes but you are basing that on Asian students. Totally pisses me off that we are quite happy to belittle our own kids because that’s what it amounts to. I’ve seen two of mine go through a levels, one a degree and a masters the other a degree and I can assure you even the a levels they sat were way more advanced than those I did.
Pack it in. It’s poor form
 
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It's a corrupted industry unfortunately, Education. Is it easier than 30 years ago? Probabaly, more students entering Uni means more profit. Asian students barely able to speak English are accepted after they take one of the "path-finder" courses, for money. I spoke to some proffessors from an Irish Uni who were on an exchange with the Uni in China I was working at. They admitted that the Asian students scores got "fudged" and in China they gave eight lectures a day...none of them wanted to be in China but it was a temporary agreement.

What trickery is this?
Where you live I’ve no doubt it’s dodgy as fuck.

As someone who works in education I can categorically say exams are still as hard.

The quality of teaching now is far greater than when I was at school.
 
Where you live I’ve no doubt it’s dodgy as fuck.

As someone who works in education I can categorically say exams are still as hard.

The quality of teaching now is far greater than when I was at school.
Totally this. I did the same A levels as my daughter( apple tree etc) and I was omg at the content of hers . So much harder
 
Where you live I’ve no doubt it’s dodgy as fuck.

As someone who works in education I can categorically say exams are still as hard.

The quality of teaching now is far greater than when I was at school.
I actually think the exams are as hard, in fact I'd say harder. The exams are one thing the course work stuff a different theme.
 
It's a corrupted industry unfortunately, Education. Is it easier than 30 years ago? Probabaly, more students entering Uni means more profit. Asian students barely able to speak English are accepted after they take one of the "path-finder" courses, for money. I spoke to some proffessors from an Irish Uni who were on an exchange with the Uni in China I was working at. They admitted that the Asian students scores got "fudged" and in China they gave eight lectures a day...none of them wanted to be in China but it was a temporary agreement.

What trickery is this?
Sorry I feel I’ve been a bit harsh. I appreciate you were only voicing an opinion given your experience. I apologise
 
For any younguns out there worried about school.
What is it really all about and why so much stress about qualifications???
I was born in the late 60’s loved school as I could play football and meet with my mates left school with very average results.
Joined junior Army at 16 and wow what a life done 6 years was class 👍👍 learnt respect, discipline, life skills and a mentality too when the shit hits the fan you got too stand up and be counted, at 22 started a real life in civvy street real work and kids, but never looked back, total respect to the British Army for setting me off in life on the right foot.
Never claimed a penny in benefits in my life.
Just took my early retirement at 55 and would not change a thing.
So anyone getting worked up about school and exams just do your thing work he’d be a decent person and you be ok.
Glad you've done well but it's a very different world to when you left school 40 years ago.
 
uni can be great, but if you’re from a deprived area doing a Micky mouse degree you’ll find it very hard afterwards to get any meaningful employment.

On that note, I’ve no idea how uni’s aren’t sued / fined under sales description act the way they tell kids shit like; “90% of former pupils who did this course are in employment within 6 months of graduating”, what they don’t tell you is they’re still doing the same 16hrs per week in the coffee shop they were working in while doing the degree.
 
For any younguns out there worried about school.
What is it really all about and why so much stress about qualifications???
I was born in the late 60’s loved school as I could play football and meet with my mates left school with very average results.
Joined junior Army at 16 and wow what a life done 6 years was class 👍👍 learnt respect, discipline, life skills and a mentality too when the shit hits the fan you got too stand up and be counted, at 22 started a real life in civvy street real work and kids, but never looked back, total respect to the British Army for setting me off in life on the right foot.
Never claimed a penny in benefits in my life.
Just took my early retirement at 55 and would not change a thing.
So anyone getting worked up about school and exams just do your thing work he’d be a decent person and you be ok.

Couple of things here…

Firstly, left to their own devices I don’t think kids would wind themselves up about this stuff. It’s the schools beholden to local authority and government targets as well as parents putting the pressure on.

Secondly, it will matter to some students. Want us to train enough doctors, lawers etc’ in this country? You need them to do well in their exams then.

Of course there are other paths that lead to success but school and exams do matter.
My son is in his third year of a law degree at Newcastle university, easy?? I couldn’t do half of what he has to, they are so far ahead of what we had to do it’s mad.

The standard of assessment is probably much lower at most places these days.

It’s an outcome of how the higher education sector has been commercialised. Universities are cash cows churning out degrees for profit these days so assessments have to be simplified to let academic staff keep up. The result is less assessment based on long form essay or tutorial and more on multiple choice quizzes and short form, open book answers.
 
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I did the same as the OP, Army at 16, but when I came out I worked as a lifeguard at the leisure centre, then got a degree in Computer Science and a degree in education and ended up teaching at the City of Sunderland college then into school's, then in Italy for 4 years and now Barcelona for the last 12 years.
The Army was brilliant for discipline and respect.
However, there is great value in education, most of the worlds problems could be solved by people being educated.
 
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I’ve never once been asked to show my degree certificates when I’ve got a job. I’m not sure if there is a database where an employer can check. I often think it would have been easier to save the money and years of my life and just pretend I had one.
 
Couple of things here…

Firstly, left to their own devices I don’t think kids would wind themselves up about this stuff. It’s the schools beholden to local authority and government targets as well as parents putting the pressure on.

Secondly, it will matter to some students. Want us to train enough doctors, lawers etc’ in this country? You need them to do well in their exams then.

Of course there are other paths that lead to success but school and exams do matter.


The standard of assessment is probably much lower at most places these days.

It’s an outcome of how the higher education sector has been commercialised. Universities are cash cows churning out degrees for profit these days so assessments have to be simplified to let academic staff keep up. The result is less assessment based on long form essay or tutorial and more on multiple choice quizzes and short form, open book answers.
Sounds like even I could get a degree now.

I don’t want one mind.
 
For any younguns out there worried about school.
What is it really all about and why so much stress about qualifications???
I was born in the late 60’s loved school as I could play football and meet with my mates left school with very average results.
Joined junior Army at 16 and wow what a life done 6 years was class 👍👍 learnt respect, discipline, life skills and a mentality too when the shit hits the fan you got too stand up and be counted, at 22 started a real life in civvy street real work and kids, but never looked back, total respect to the British Army for setting me off in life on the right foot.
Never claimed a penny in benefits in my life.
Just took my early retirement at 55 and would not change a thing.
So anyone getting worked up about school and exams just do your thing work he’d be a decent person and you be ok.

6 years now would barely get you a pension, with the new pension scheme.
It has changed. Infact you would've only got 5 years worth of Army pension due to serving 1 for the Queen, joining at 16?
Still not a bad pension if you do the full 20, I suppose.

It stands that you can get qualifications and help in 6 years of service, though.
 
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I think degrees by and large are an indicator of commitment with probably. some indoctrination thrown in 😊
Correct to some extent . I was very frustrated by the demand to just regurgitate others thoughts with references. Theyre really just about explaining what others think.
But they do show you can start by being clear about that .
 
You don't pass them these days you buy them, £9000 a year for 3 years. If the university try to fail anyone they just say they didn't get the quality of teaching they paid for.
Yeah, they're basically impossible to fail as long as you have stuff in. That's why the lower grades are pointless.
 

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