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shepherd88 said:
Ah fuck, oh well, nice while it lasted. Thought it might have been people being more aware of the dangers and the stigma attached to heroin.
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Well it was in a way. What Marx said about opium is perfectly correct. Folk will turn to it for comfort when times are tougher.
 

JonMc said:
No they didn't. Nutt resigned and came under criticism for doing so by some of heers peers in the drug research world.

They will never make money from taxing drugs, especially cannabis. They will never sell it for the price we pay for it now because the majority of it is produced in UK farms at the moment and decriminilization will let this industry flourish like never before. Legalised dope shops will only be used by newbies who can't get hold of it elsewhere.
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He was asked to resign after saying acohol is more harmful than illegal drugs.
You may have a point with cannabis but other drugs like E arent exactly grown in the garden. Ofcourse there would still be a cheaper black market like we have for booze and fags but generally people would buy from licensed premises
 
robin hood said:
He was asked to resign after saying acohol is more harmful than illegal drugs.
You may have a point with cannabis but other drugs like E arent exactly grown in the garden. Ofcourse there would still be a cheaper black market like we have for booze and fags but generally people would buy from licensed premises
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People would not. The tobacco comparison is a valid one. No one would buy another packet of tabs from a shop again if they could get hold of the cheap, illegally imported stuff. Cannabis would have no such restriction.
 
robin hood said:
So?
Its only legal because its been around so long and is so deeply entrenched in our society. If it was new it would be a class A drug.
Being legal or illegal doesnt make them better or worse. Alcohol is one of the most harmful drugs there is. You cant play a moral highground with drug users when you take alcohol
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Of course you can.

Alcohol users are acting within the law and the standard of behaviour deemed generally acceptable by society.

Coke heads aren't.

I still don't see how alcohol being bad makes illegal drugs ok.

A more logical conclusion to the 'alcohol is bad and and that's legal' train of thought is that alcohol should be made illegal rather than all harmful substances made legal.

Not that I'm saying that should happen, because there is no need for a one size fits all approach.

It doesn't matter how much you go on about alcohol or tobacco, if you freely admit to taking cocaine, most decent people will consider you a low life.
 
JonMc said:
People would not. The tobacco comparison is a valid one. No one would buy another packet of tabs from a shop again if they could get hold of the cheap, illegally imported stuff. Cannabis would have no such restriction.
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Many drug users already do. Whenever a good legal high is available they get them rather than stuff from street dealers. Theres been some very good coke, speed and pills in these shops that sells very well
 
humbug said:
no, because drinking is a perfectly legal pastime.

i thought this was about drugs, didn't realise those lads had been locked up for flogging cans of fosters.
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should be.

in the eyes of the law you are right, alcohol is not a drug.

is a spliff more socially acceptable than a pill, or a line? who decides where the line is drawn?
 
Hulkster said:
Of course you can.

Alcohol users are acting within the law and the standard of behaviour deemed generally acceptable by society.

Coke heads aren't.

I still don't see how alcohol being bad makes illegal drugs ok.

A more logical conclusion to the 'alcohol is bad and and that's legal' train of thought is that alcohol should be made illegal rather than all harmful substances made legal.

Not that I'm saying that should happen, because there is no need for a one size fits all approach.

It doesn't matter how much you go on about alcohol or tobacco, if you freely admit to taking cocaine, most decent people will consider you a low life.
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Being on coke isnt acting within the law but dont kid yourself, most coke users are acting within an acceptable way to people. So acceptable that you wouldnt even notice them nevermind think theyre a low life. Meanwhile you say drinkers behaviour is deemed acceptable. Well thats not what the government and media flavour of the months suggests is it, all you hear about is how terrible how drinking culture it is, how drunks are appaling, filling up hospitals, being sick everywhere, danger to health and society blah blah

humbug said:
no, because drinking is a perfectly legal pastime.

i thought this was about drugs, didn't realise those lads had been locked up for flogging cans of fosters.
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Drink is a drug
 
humbug said:
no, because drinking is a perfectly legal pastime.

i thought this was about drugs, didn't realise those lads had been locked up for flogging cans of fosters.
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I think your point was that 'people who need drugs to enjoy life are pathetic'.

The question was then does that include booze?

Are you saying then that because booze is legal, those who need it to enjoy life aren't pathetic?
 
robin hood said:
Many drug users already do. Whenever a good legal high is available they get them rather than stuff from street dealers. Theres been some very good coke, speed and pills in these shops that sells very well
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Bcause it's cheap and nasty. You don't know what's in it and really you're shoving some little Chinese fuckers chemistry set up yer hooter. That's the truth about a lot of kids...and childish adults. They don't care what it does to the body as long as the hit is agreeable. Or even if it's not.
 
Dibble said:
I think your point was that 'people who need drugs to enjoy life are pathetic'.

The question was then does that include booze?

Are you saying then that because booze is legal, those who need it to enjoy life aren't pathetic?
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This is the shite smokers have to put up with...
 
JonMc said:
Bcause it's cheap and nasty. You don't know what's in it and really you're shoving some little Chinese fuckers chemistry set up yer hooter. That's the truth about a lot of kids...and childish adults. They don't care what it does to the body as long as the hit is agreeable. Or even if it's not.
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i'd challenge anyone to tell me what goes into a can of lager, including preservatives etc and then ask about the resulting long-term damage it can do.

the bottom line is one is on one side of the law, the other isn't. why is it that smoking a reefer is socially acceptable but a couple of pills or a line isn't?
 
JonMc said:
Bcause it's cheap and nasty. You don't know what's in it and really you're shoving some little Chinese fuckers chemistry set up yer hooter. That's the truth about a lot of kids...and childish adults. They don't care what it does to the body as long as the hit is agreeable. Or even if it's not.
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You dont what it is from a dealer either. Most couldnt tell you what is in drinks either. You said they wouldnt use shops, but they do use shops already and theyre getting more popular, especially ordering them online
 
monkeytassle said:
should be.

in the eyes of the law you are right, alcohol is not a drug.

is a spliff more socially acceptable than a pill, or a line? who decides where the line is drawn?
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I honestly think weed is socially acceptable nowadays as much as alcohol, in fact alcohol probably has more stigma attached to it then weed. Just my opinion like.

A stoner is seen as harmless layabout, an alchy is seen much worse again imo.
 
monkeytassle said:
should be.

in the eyes of the law you are right, alcohol is not a drug.

is a spliff more socially acceptable than a pill, or a line? who decides where the line is drawn?
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the line is when people behave in a way that is not socially acceptable. whether it's through drinking or drug use doesn't matter.
i just can't understand why people need to take something to enjoy themselves.
 
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