Dortmund bus terrorist attack

[chunkyshanhawk53]

Err no. Stop being facetious. It's unbecoming.



Most of the populace have no chance mate when the manipulation is so in your face.

I was genuinely being serious

 

[ProfessionalMackem]

I was genuinely being serious

Fuck off lol

 

[JAZZMANB]

Essentially bought options

Layman's terms

 

[dangermows]

Imagine thinking a broken window and a note pointed towards it being ISIS

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

Layman's terms

A put option means you pay a fee up front to give you the option to sell something at a pre agreed price at a point in future.

Let's say HSBC is trading at £6 a share.

I could buy a put option that gives me the right to sell it to you for £7 in 1 months time. Note it's the right to sell, but not an obligation. It's my choice

Now the chance of it being a £1 more expensive in a months time is low right? Let's say it's £6.50. I would therefore sell at £7 and take the £0.50 profit per share.

In this case the higher I set the level (7 in this case), the more I have to pay you for the option

Note: this is the basic concept of a put option. In the Dortmund case he was looking to buy the option to sell, but buy back at a lower price on the open market when the share price tanked

 

[JAZZMANB]

A put option means you pay a fee up front to give you the option to sell something at a pre agreed price at a point in future.

Let's say HSBC is trading at £6 a share.

I could buy a put option that gives me the right to sell it to you for £7 in 1 months time. Note it's the right to sell, but not an obligation. It's my choice

Now the chance of it being a £1 more expensive in a months time is low right? Let's say it's £6.50. I would therefore sell at £7 and take the £0.50 profit per share.

In this case the higher I set the level (7 in this case), the more I have to pay you for the option

Note: this is the basic concept of a put option. In the Dortmund case he was looking to buy the option to sell, but buy back at a lower price on the open market when the share price tanked

Got it all til the last paragraph ,he buys and sells pre crash then buys cheaper ones after? How has he made anything ? He can do either transaction pre and post crash independently, I don't get it

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

Got it all til the last paragraph ,he buys and sells pre crash then buys cheaper ones after? How has he made anything ? He can do either transaction pre and post crash independently, I don't get it

Example

Current share price is 3
Buys a put option at 2 which costs 0.1 up front
Bombs
Share price goes down to 1
Buys shares on open market for 1 and uses option to sell back for 2
Makes profit of 0.9 after 0.1 fee

 

[JAZZMANB]

Example

Current share price is 3
Buys a put option at 2 which costs 0.1 up front
Bombs
Share price goes down to 1
Buys shares on open market for 1 and uses option to sell back for 2
Makes profit of 0.9 after 0.1 fee

Okay .Got ya
your other example the guaranteed price option was higher than share price not lower

 

[Icarebecauseyoudo]

Worst share deal since xcite energy

 

[chunkyshanhawk53]

Okay .Got ya
your other example the guaranteed price option was higher than share price not lower

Yes it's a different example

 

[vinegar hill]

The usual suspects are conspicuous by their absence when it turns out their knee jerk Islam response turns out to be wrong

I know. Fancy anyone thinking it could be connected with Islamic Terrorism.
I mean there's no previous is there.

 

[David Sowerbutts]

I know. Fancy anyone thinking it could be connected with Islamic Terrorism.
I mean there's no previous is there.

If ISIS weren't bombing people all the time the Russkie wouldn't of been able to come up with the idea so it's there fault anyway.

 

[Cockney Mackem]

I know. Fancy anyone thinking it could be connected with Islamic Terrorism.
I mean there's no previous is there.

And yet, assuming it is, assuming all Muslims are a bit explodey, not acknowledging when it actually wasn't Muslims this time.. Lacks a bit of class really

 

[lenshack]

I'm guessing that the number of non Muslim/Islam related terrorist attacks in Europe in the past few years has been so small as to be almost insignificant.

Without them today's massive security measures would hardly be needed, be insignificant and hardly noticeable in contrast to the sad sight of police armed with assault rifles etc. that greets us today in so many public places, in addition to the even greater security measures taking place online and behind the scenes.

Life for everyone would be so much more relaxing.

 

[cluffy]

Presumably he bought the shares under his own name? Please don't tell me he booked into the hotel under it anarl! Then acted all casual while everyone was panicing? FFS am I the only person left on the planet who actually watches cop shows on the telly?

Never seen owt like this on Lewis

 

[royalflash]

seems like a shit deal, id have thought the shares would be worth more if they do well

 

[Cockney Mackem]

I'm guessing that the number of non Muslim/Islam related terrorist attacks in Europe in the past few years has been so small as to be almost insignificant.

Without them today's massive security measures would hardly be needed, be insignificant and hardly noticeable in contrast to the sad sight of police armed with assault rifles etc. that greets us today in so many public places, in addition to the even greater security measures taking place online and behind the scenes.

Life for everyone would be so much more relaxing.

We should stop subsiding its principal source then

 

[lenshack]

We should stop subsiding its principal source then

You seriously believe that will change their ways ?

 

[ouro]

The usual suspects are conspicuous by their absence when it turns out their knee jerk Islam response turns out to be wrong

We are waiting for LeChifre to respond.

 

[James]

seems like a shit deal, id have thought the shares would be worth more if they do well

You don't understand the business of buying and selling shares though.