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Donald not responding to takeover offers?

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10 Gary Rowells said:
Errm Maja was under contract to us when he left - that is about as much in our gift as possible. One option could have been to sit him and his agent down and explain quite clearly we wouldn't be selling him and then he would have been ours until the end of the season and would have potentially been promoted. At that point Maja could have left for free (or small compensation) or signed a new contract if he chose to. How on earth can you think we couldn't have stopped him leaving when he was under contract to us?
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So you want us to keep a player who didn't want to play for us for 4 more months until his contract expired and he left for free?

He clearly wanted the move, and keeping him here would have just pissed him off. Remember when Philips didn't want to be he, he just went through the motions.
sir rowell cummins said:
I don’t agree on Maja. They made a mess of it. Arrogance was the cause. You saw it happen- ‘they’re taking the piss’ to ‘offer them some more last minute’. As for a replacement .... he either stayed and they made that clear, or they planned for a replacement in advance not at the end of January. Sorry like but saying the club had no responsibility for the lack of early negotiation and the consequent bad signing is bollocks and a narrative they had you believe which was shown to be a balls up on TV.

As for struggling for investment, the whole world isn’t bankrupt. Investors invest in things that are good value. The profit comes when income goes up AND expenditure is under control. It doesn’t work without both. Our income has reduced has it not ? Our product is worse is it not ? If we were promoted last season or this season and had a sniff of premier league income and a parachute left would it not be easier to get investors ? Of course it would. Even from a business perspective they have made a hash of it. I’d say not investing in the playing side at all levels In the right way at the Right time will cost them a small fortune financially and has cost us fans a club making progress /hope. So ... what have they improved since they started? Name something.
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Maja was asked what he wanted and his agent told us and we agreed to it. His agent then said he would be accepting and then he left.

Also, where does the money come from for extra investment you suggest?
 
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Hep said:
So you want us to keep a player who didn't want to play for us for 4 more months until his contract expired and he left for free?

He clearly wanted the move, and keeping him here would have just pissed him off. Remember when Philips didn't want to be he, he just went through the motions.

Maja was asked what he wanted and his agent told us and we agreed to it. His agent then said he would be accepting and then he left.

Also, where does the money come from for extra investment you suggest?
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Extra investment you say? How about they repay the money they took I say.
Thus therefore no need to go looking for extra investment
 
Binxy said:
We've just finished in our lowest ever position you clown.
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And you need to deal with that reality, we're a league one club with no money from Sky and we don't have a billionaire owner. Crying at the owners because we didn't win the league is pointless.

We need to compete as we have no divine right to promotion. So many people still think we're a big club that can attract players on reputation alone, it's a myth, we were a big club but that was over 50 years ago now. Apart from 73 and a couple of good seasons we've done nothing.
Wearside Wanderer II said:
Extra investment you say? How about they repay the money they took I say.
Thus therefore no need to go looking for extra investment
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They have not withdrawn a penny of the parachute payments, it went as part of the deal with Short, which included paying off £137M of debt - very good business. The debt was written off which means there is no legal obligation to pay it back, but no money has been taken out. Effectively Donald owned Donald £20m, so he just scratched it.

He's free to put any amount of money into the club, but why should they put £20m of their own money with the way we go on?
 
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Hep said:
And you need to deal with that reality, we're a league one club with no money from Sky and we don't have a billionaire owner. Crying at the owners because we didn't win the league is pointless.

We need to compete as we have no divine right to promotion. So many people still think we're a big club that can attract players on reputation alone, it's a myth, we were a big club but that was over 50 years ago now. Apart from 73 and a couple of good seasons we've done nothing.

They have not withdrawn a penny of the parachute payments, it went as part of the deal with Short, which included paying off £137M of debt - very good business. The debt was written off which means there is no legal obligation to pay it back, but no money has been taken out. Effectively Donald owned Donald £20m, so he just scratched it.

He's free to put any amount of money into the club, but why should they put £20m of their own money with the way we go on?
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debt free they said.
Or are you trying to rewrite history?
 
Hep said:
I think we're twisting like a kid who didn't win pass the parcel. We were really close to promotion and a cup win in the first season.
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Sorry, but disagree with the first sentence marra. However, I can see the logic in what you are saying in the second sentence about how it is fine margins.

I think people are looking more holistically rather than losing a play off final.
 
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it went as part of the deal with Short
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Only according to them after they were caught out. They went to great lengths to explain how the parachute payments were not going to Short when they came in.

Methven says at a meeting that it was always part of the deal, and produces no evidence to prove this, and yet the ‘it was always part of the deal’ has became gospel for some.
 
Hep said:
And you need to deal with that reality, we're a league one club with no money from Sky and we don't have a billionaire owner. Crying at the owners because we didn't win the league is pointless.

We need to compete as we have no divine right to promotion. So many people still think we're a big club that can attract players on reputation alone, it's a myth, we were a big club but that was over 50 years ago now. Apart from 73 and a couple of good seasons we've done nothing.
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If they were putting in place a framework to get us back up the leagues a lot of fans (though not all) would still be giving them the benefit of the doubt. By this I mean:
  • Appointing well qualified people to key club positions. For example a head of academy who understand how a category one academy should be run or a director of football with a suitable approach to running the footballing side and recruitment
  • Sitting down with our academy players and explaining to them while we feel that us being a league on club offers those players an opportunity to get first team games at an earlier stage of their progression and how this can improve their career prospects instead of moving to another cat one academy further up the leagues
  • A transfer approach that involves us signing players under 25 with the aim of improving them so they either move up the leagues with us or we can sell for profit
Instead they've
  • Appointed unqualified personnel to vital positions within the club because they are mates meaning we've squandered our resources. Our head of the acdemy still lived on the south coast and hadnt even spoken to some of our young uns whove been shunted out the back door quietly
  • Touted our academy players out without consulting parents first and allowed them to leave for absolute buttons to the point where we can't even put out a full youth team at u16 level and our u18s and u23s have won one game between them during their ownership - And this comes straight from the mouths of parents so don't give me any bull about it being made up
  • Loaded the squad with washed up, lower league never-beens on decent wages restricting the chances for our academy players. Players filling the squad who we pay until they retire or their contract expires as nobody else is interested in touching them. Willis, 09 and Dobson the only players the right side of 25 that I think we've signed
Those are the most important reasons for me wanting them out. They've bought us and cut our costs to league one level - fine , i absolutely understand the need to do that. But once that was done they've had no other plan. Simply to do the absolute bare minimum they possibly can to get us promoted so they can flip us for profit. Short term, arrogant decisions at every turn because they thought the club was big enough to bounce back. The decisions they've made we'll be feeling for years. Not all our academy players would have stayed under other regimes but I know but some would. I equally understand that not all will make it at the top level but we're pretty f***ing far from there at the time being and I guarantee that a percentage of them will make it at a higher level than we are at now.

Thats before even discussing the utter contempt they've shown for fans when they didnt realise they were being listened to, the season ticket fiasco, the dubious purchase agreement or the season card fiasco.
 
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Hep said:
So you want us to keep a player who didn't want to play for us for 4 more months until his contract expired and he left for free?

He clearly wanted the move, and keeping him here would have just pissed him off. Remember when Philips didn't want to be he, he just went through the motions.

Maja was asked what he wanted and his agent told us and we agreed to it. His agent then said he would be accepting and then he left.

Also, where does the money come from for extra investment you suggest?
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No thats not true and implied they were taking the piss and would cave in later. We said no chance then said yes much later when they'd already been ignored and spoken to others. Its on TV man.

Extra investment would come from money raised by a board who planned to be here for the long term investing in what would have a positive out come further ahead and then being full committed to it, as opposed to a board redirecting the club's money and chucking freebies at a very rich board member then tried to hawk us out. Alternatively accepting a takeover 'in the club's best interests' to someone who will do the above. I'll ask again. Third time. What do you think our current board have improved since they took over ?? I'd genuinely like to know. Clearly something, as you seem to be implying they are doing just fine and we are all being irrational.
 
Hep said:
And you need to deal with that reality, we're a league one club with no money from Sky and we don't have a billionaire owner. Crying at the owners because we didn't win the league is pointless.

We need to compete as we have no divine right to promotion. So many people still think we're a big club that can attract players on reputation alone, it's a myth, we were a big club but that was over 50 years ago now. Apart from 73 and a couple of good seasons we've done nothing.

They have not withdrawn a penny of the parachute payments, it went as part of the deal with Short, which included paying off £137M of debt - very good business. The debt was written off which means there is no legal obligation to pay it back, but no money has been taken out. Effectively Donald owned Donald £20m, so he just scratched it.

He's free to put any amount of money into the club, but why should they put £20m of their own money with the way we go on?
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You are seriously deluded and there is no arguing with your level of stupidity
 
Hep said:
And you need to deal with that reality, we're a league one club with no money from Sky and we don't have a billionaire owner. Crying at the owners because we didn't win the league is pointless.

We need to compete as we have no divine right to promotion. So many people still think we're a big club that can attract players on reputation alone, it's a myth, we were a big club but that was over 50 years ago now. Apart from 73 and a couple of good seasons we've done nothing.

They have not withdrawn a penny of the parachute payments, it went as part of the deal with Short, which included paying off £137M of debt - very good business. The debt was written off which means there is no legal obligation to pay it back, but no money has been taken out. Effectively Donald owned Donald £20m, so he just scratched it.

He's free to put any amount of money into the club, but why should they put £20m of their own money with the way we go on?
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Sartori is a billionaire
 
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