Doctors on £100,000 salaries to strike demanding 35pc pay rise

[Qwerty]

No not at all, but isn't it mostly junior doctors that are striking ?

Yes I think so, why would that matter?

 

[AndrewP]

Errrr all of em surely.

Mental to suggest that a 23 year old trainee should earn 10k a month. Unless I'm misunderstanding.

 

[the dude]

The 20% rise is for one pay point and it's that high because it coincides with a jump in scale anyway due to progressing seniority which existed historically. So its a little bit disingenuous for them to be reporting it this way.

It's always the same. Remember a few years ago they had headlines reporting nurses (I think) were getting a 6% rise. They were but it was over 2 years so technically 3%. But that doesn't make as good a headline.

 

[Martin F]

Mental to suggest that a 23 year old trainee should earn 10k a month. Unless I'm misunderstanding.

You don't understand what a Junior Doctor is, do you?

 

[AndrewP]

You don't understand what a Junior Doctor is, do you?

Yes, I do. What makes you think that?

Someone (I think) suggested all junior doctors (this would include fy1) should get £10k a month. Sounds a bit daft.

If they weren't suggesting that, fair enough.

 

[Martin F]

Yes, I do. What makes you think that?

Someone (I think) suggested all junior doctors (this would include fy1) should get £10k a month. Sounds a bit daft.

If they weren't suggesting that, fair enough.

The fact that you called them trainees.

 

[AndrewP]

The fact that you called them trainees.

That's a fact, yeah. You'll struggle to find a 23 year old doctor who isn't a trainee.

 

[Will e]

We are, to be honest I voted to accept the initial offer. It's just the reporting by the media of a 20% rise is going to stir up resentment when actually it's not quite representative of what's happened.

Well there's a surprise, fancy the (Tory? by any chance) media exaggerating, the sad thing is that some people actually believe it.

 

[ontap]

Mental to suggest that a 23 year old trainee should earn 10k a month. Unless I'm misunderstanding.

Qualified DR’s mate , I assumed that by “all” , he mean’t the different types , ie. GP, the multitude of different hospital specialists etc ?

 

[AndrewP]

Qualified DR’s mate , I assumed that by “all” , he mean’t the different types , ie. GP, the multitude of different hospital specialists etc ?

They're doctors the second they graduate uni, but I get what you mean now.

 

[ontap]

When there was a new GP contract in 2003 it was reported that the pay rise was 30%.

What they didn't clarify was the change in payment of employers pension which previously was paid by the government but they made it the responsibility of the GPs so 20% of the rise was a simple transfer of cash and didn't benefit GPs at all.

Following this after 10 years of pay reduction I'd had enough and left

Was this offer put before a union ?
Was there an option to accept or refuse ?
Trying to put this into simple terms eg;
£1000pw plus 20% pension contribution paid by government , so effectively £1200pk.
Offer:
1000 plus 30% rise = 1300.
Less 20% contribution now deducted from salary. £260
Pay rise in real terms £40.
Made up figures but surely there’s no way of sinning that past whoever was representing the Dr’s ???
One could even call that a £160pw pay cut.
Can’t be right surely ?