Dave Hosselhaff
Winger
100k not enough we need 135k. FRO
Doctors on £100,000 salaries to strike demanding 35pc pay rise
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lostinfrance
Midfield
How much is a doctor worth ?
Wilfy
Striker
If they save my life one day, more than what they’re asking for.
Good on them. They deserve double that. They dedicate their lives to their profession.
safcforever
Striker
This old chestnut.
I bet when you look at the actual facts it’ll be a very small amount of people on 100k whereas it’s the 40-50k doctors that they’re striking for
I bet when you look at the actual facts it’ll be a very small amount of people on 100k whereas it’s the 40-50k doctors that they’re striking for
lostinfrance
Midfield
Iballistic George
Winger
Pay is proportional and it's all about the info contained within the head. Training is essential and constant updating of numerous data makes it worth the pay.
Sea to Shining Sea
Winger
Consultants are talented people. They have to be to get on a medicine course. They then have to persevere through medical training, an incredibly challenging course. They then have to do the hard yards for a number of years. They then often have to make life or death decisions, decide on people keeping or losing limbs to preserve life and life quality, they have to deal with the emotional baggage that comes with that.
If they aren’t worth top dollar, and we aren’t willing to support them in that endeavour, then absolutely no one is. It never ceases to amaze me that people will pounce on these professions but will never, ever discuss, for example, house sale site managers who earn enormous sums in an entirely selfish (in the truest meaning) profession. Let alone the really, really wealthy bullshit merchants who earn millions in the city or in advertising.
If they aren’t worth top dollar, and we aren’t willing to support them in that endeavour, then absolutely no one is. It never ceases to amaze me that people will pounce on these professions but will never, ever discuss, for example, house sale site managers who earn enormous sums in an entirely selfish (in the truest meaning) profession. Let alone the really, really wealthy bullshit merchants who earn millions in the city or in advertising.
Feed the Monster
Striker
Yaaaaaaawwwwwwwnnnnnnn.
Irrelevant of that, people deserve fair pay rises.
I’ve beat this drum before, and I’ll beat it again. The public sector should receive pay rises in line with whatever is higher out of inflation/cost of living.
If that’s 0% then so be it. If it’s 7% then it should be that.
The issue now is that pay has fell so far behind where it should be that demands seem ridiculous to some people. But the demands are still only to take pay up to where they should be.
I’ve posted before on here about firefighters as an example. If Firefighters continue on the same pay increases for the next 30 years, then someone who started in 2013 will be on the equivalent of £18,000 in 2053.
I’ll stick the full post as spoiler instead of boring everyone.
In 2013 a competent firefighter earned £28776. In 2023 they are on £32244. If pay had matched inflation then the current pay should be £36932.
Over the past 10 years their pay has gone up 12% whereas inflation has been 28% (using CPI data from BoE).
If this firefighter joined at 18 in 2011, becoming competent in 2013 and planned on doing 42 years (good luck) then on current trend their salary would be £45300 when they retire in 2053. If their pay kept up with inflation then it would be £77452. So over the span of their career, their final salary will be about 42% less than what it would be if it had matched inflation.
That generous pension scheme you mentioned will see that firefighter retiring on a pension of £25110 (ironically, that pension will be inflation linked). Whereas if the salary kept up with inflation, then their pension would be £37082. So their pension is roughly 32% less than what it should be.
To compare the 2053 salary to today, it would be like paying a competent firefighter £18000.
Over the past 10 years their pay has gone up 12% whereas inflation has been 28% (using CPI data from BoE).
If this firefighter joined at 18 in 2011, becoming competent in 2013 and planned on doing 42 years (good luck) then on current trend their salary would be £45300 when they retire in 2053. If their pay kept up with inflation then it would be £77452. So over the span of their career, their final salary will be about 42% less than what it would be if it had matched inflation.
That generous pension scheme you mentioned will see that firefighter retiring on a pension of £25110 (ironically, that pension will be inflation linked). Whereas if the salary kept up with inflation, then their pension would be £37082. So their pension is roughly 32% less than what it should be.
To compare the 2053 salary to today, it would be like paying a competent firefighter £18000.
ontap
Striker
Wow , is that all that qualified doctors are on , 100k ? Am seriously shocked. Can’t blame em , the length of training they have to endure , that wage totally devalues them imo.
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And we will happily endorse someone getting that sum every week playing football.
The world is all to cock
SAFCOldie
Striker
Nor the bootnecks on the front line
it's all the wrong way around in reality.
BigPete
Striker
Work their arses off as well
Monkton mackem
Winger
Worth their weight in gold, every single one of them. Pay them what they want.
Fuck that. I want someone on minimum wage working 13 hour shifts to be dispensing me apple cider vinegar for my heart attack and telling me not to get the Covid vaccine cos they’ve seen on facey that it’s a 5g chip.
Brain surgeon salary is listed here, scary low imo.
www.healthcareers.nhs.uk
Neurosurgeon
Life as a neurosurgeon Neurosurgery is a challenging speciality. Our understanding of the brain and central nervous system is changing all the time and you’ll have to keep up to date with the latest developments and research. You will be based in one of 30 neurological units in the UK. These are...
If you want your speciality to be maxillofacial, then it’ll take 11 years after your medical degree to become a consultant.Brain surgeon salary is listed here, scary low imo.
Neurosurgeon
Life as a neurosurgeon Neurosurgery is a challenging speciality. Our understanding of the brain and central nervous system is changing all the time and you’ll have to keep up to date with the latest developments and research. You will be based in one of 30 neurological units in the UK. These are...
Relatively low salaries (for a post grad with that length of study) and not great work conditions have always been a given. But now the opening salaries for junior doctors aren’t great and the earning potential (plus pension) is just so much lower than it should be.
We’d all like to think that doctors do it for altruistic reasons, but let’s be real, they’re very clever people who generally do it for the money. We’ll now see our cleverest kids choosing other degrees than medicine where they’ll earn more. This will, imo, lead to grades being lowered to get into medicine.
Doctor are the grade A students all the way through their education and could excel at many other professions but choose to do medicine.
Why shouldn’t they get paid on par with others at the absolute top of their game when they achieve that when they are consultants?
I’m not for one minute suggesting a blank cheque but I know a scaffolder earring 100k in London and the only part of the top of his game he reaches is when he’s up a height.
Why shouldn’t they get paid on par with others at the absolute top of their game when they achieve that when they are consultants?
I’m not for one minute suggesting a blank cheque but I know a scaffolder earring 100k in London and the only part of the top of his game he reaches is when he’s up a height.
