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Interesting you say that and i’d be keen to known why you make that link, because Class A Drugs are a massive part of societies current supposed mental health crisis imo.

That said, i’m talking more about younger people a lot of whom are smashing the drugs in recreationally, getting extended and grim come-downs and confusing that with feeling depressed and anxious and being in a dark place.

I don’t for one minute mean anyone on this thread is taking line after line after tablet of a weekend then crying about what a state they are in mentally btw. You all seem decent sound folks who legit need help and deserve it.
I definitely think abusing drugs as a young un has played a part in my longterm mental health problems. I was reckless with mainly pills and alcohol and I do think it has lasting effects.
 


I definitely think abusing drugs as a young un has played a part in my longterm mental health problems. I was reckless with mainly pills and alcohol and I do think it has lasting effects.

I wouldn’t be surprised if it has added to my issues. From 18-21 I did a range of coke, speed, mkat etc.

Can’t have been good for my anxiety at the least.
 
I wouldn’t be surprised if it has added to my issues. From 18-21 I did a range of coke, speed, mkat etc.

Can’t have been good for my anxiety at the least.
I've tried all those drugs and can definitely see how they will cause issues. I've taken coke recently after over 5 years of no drugs I have taken coke about half a dozen times in the last two years and always feel like shit for days after. Partly because of its natural effects but added to that the guilt I feel for wasting 100 quid on something so pointless now that I have a family. Money that could be better spent on quality time. Kinda vicious circle I am in but luckily it is rare I slip up with anything other than too many beers.
 
I've tried all those drugs and can definitely see how they will cause issues. I've taken coke recently after over 5 years of no drugs I have taken coke about half a dozen times in the last two years and always feel like shit for days after. Partly because of its natural effects but added to that the guilt I feel for wasting 100 quid on something so pointless now that I have a family. Money that could be better spent on quality time. Kinda vicious circle I am in but luckily it is rare I slip up with anything other than too many beers.

Very vicious cycle mate. I haven’t taken any drugs in 9-10 years, barely drink now either as my hangovers are making and make me want to top myself.

I think my drug use was because I was an introvert and all my mates loved going out clubbing, so I used them to help me cope with being in an environment that terrified me.
 
I’m sure a recent study reveals you are up to SIXTEEN times more likely to have dark / suicidal thoughts if you have cocaine in your system. Its a staggering statistic.

Now, there is a cocaine epidemic in society at present with a scary amount of young people (16-30) totally reliant on it, and also, there is a mental health epidemic.

I might be putting 2+2 together but....
 
Very vicious cycle mate. I haven’t taken any drugs in 9-10 years, barely drink now either as my hangovers are making and make me want to top myself.

I think my drug use was because I was an introvert and all my mates loved going out clubbing, so I used them to help me cope with being in an environment that terrified me.
I was and am a quiet lad too mate. I've got some good mates but all our socialising revolves around the pub because I am even shy around lads I have know for years. I've been with my lass for 17 years and still fell the need for Dutch courage just to have sex with her (sorry for too much information). I know you will have had plenty offers but feel free to PM me if you need to sound off.
 
I’m sure a study reveals you are up to SIXTEEN times more likely to have dark / suicidal thoughts if you have cocaine in your system. Its a staggering stat.

Now, there is a cocaine epidemic in society at present with a scary amount of young people (16-30) totally reliant on it, and also, there is a mental health epidemic.

I might be putting 2+2 together but....

I reckon it is a contributing factor, rather than a major cause.

Reading a food book at the minute by Lost Connections - Uncovering the real causes of depression by Johan Hari. He talks a lot about our lifestyles and our lack of meaningful connections leading to depression.
 
I’m sure a recent study reveals you are up to SIXTEEN times more likely to have dark / suicidal thoughts if you have cocaine in your system. Its a staggering statistic.

Now, there is a cocaine epidemic in society at present with a scary amount of young people (16-30) totally reliant on it, and also, there is a mental health epidemic.

I might be putting 2+2 together but....
It is definitely a factor mate and I know a few lads who have bee heavy users who have topped themselves. It's not just the effects of the drug but it can get you into financial bother and into trouble with some nasty people which adds to the chemical effect.
 
I was and am a quiet lad too mate. I've got some good mates but all our socialising revolves around the pub because I am even shy around lads I have know for years. I've been with my lass for 17 years and still fell the need for Dutch courage just to have sex with her (sorry for too much information). I know you will have had plenty offers but feel free to PM me if you need to sound off.

Cheers mate really appreciate that. Same goes if you want to sound off!
 
I definitely think abusing drugs as a young un has played a part in my longterm mental health problems. I was reckless with mainly pills and alcohol and I do think it has lasting effects.
I have always had anxiety since mmaybe 10 or 11 but it ramped up after starting to smoke a lot of hash from about 18 to 24. It caused me to be anxious more often which msde me think about it more and then the anxiety becomes more prevalent. Acid, speed, e or coke made it even more so. I loved doing drugs but if you're at all prone to anxiety they are bad in the long term. Ditto large alcohol consumption cos of the hangovers.
 
Interesting you say that and i’d be keen to known why you make that link, because Class A Drugs are a massive part of societies current supposed mental health crisis imo.

That said, i’m talking more about younger people a lot of whom are smashing the drugs in recreationally, getting extended and grim come-downs and confusing that with feeling depressed and anxious and being in a dark place.

I don’t for one minute mean anyone on this thread is taking line after line after tablet of a weekend then crying about what a state they are in mentally btw. You all seem decent sound folks who legit need help and deserve it.

From my late teens to mid-20's I took pretty much every 'party drug' on a regular basis and I'm convinced that it's had a major lasting impact which manifests itself to this day. Even when I'm not feeling depressed per se I'm having ridiculous mood swings for no reason whatsoever and apparently that's one of the main long term effects of heavy drug use
 
The replies on here are an eye opener. When I mentioned this link between drug misuse & mental health I thought i’d get a panning.

The issue is, with Mental Health on the agenda and front page I don’t really think anyone has the balls to point out a link that is glaringly obvious.
 
The replies on here are an eye opener. When I mentioned this link between drug misuse & mental health I thought i’d get a panning.

The issue is, with Mental Health on the agenda and front page I don’t really think anyone has the balls to point out a link that is glaringly obvious.
It’s a shame that the prevailing attitude still seems to be to glorify drugs, and I guess I do too with alcohol. To turn your back to them is still perceived as being square, Daddy-o. We really need more honesty and openness across the board from those both stuck in the middle of their addictions, and those who have come out the other side and survived to let the next lot know it’s really not big and not clever.
 
The replies on here are an eye opener. When I mentioned this link between drug misuse & mental health I thought i’d get a panning.

The issue is, with Mental Health on the agenda and front page I don’t really think anyone has the balls to point out a link that is glaringly obvious.
When I lived in Central Manchester my doctor told me that a high number of their patients were suffering mental health issues related to excessive drug use. They may not always be the root cause but drugs can make things worse
 
The replies on here are an eye opener. When I mentioned this link between drug misuse & mental health I thought i’d get a panning.

The issue is, with Mental Health on the agenda and front page I don’t really think anyone has the balls to point out a link that is glaringly obvious.
Not always the case of course but for about 3 years I lived for the weekend felt like shite from Monday to Wednesday everyweek and thought nowt of drinking 20 pints and necking 10 pills in a weekend. Had a great time but definitely think it caught up with me. There are alot of people who abuse it as juch as I did but well onto there 30s.
 
I’m no doctor like so I’m probably completely wrong :lol:

Thing is marra, your experience and your own feelings about your own body are probably worth far more than any doctors opinion.

I’m always interested to know what qualifications these mental health professionals have anyway, because I really feel like being/becoming a MHP requires that person to have had some personal experience of their own struggle.
 
Thing is marra, your experience and your own feelings about your own body are probably worth far more than any doctors opinion.

I’m always interested to know what qualifications these mental health professionals have anyway, because I really feel like being/becoming a MHP requires that person to have had some personal experience of their own struggle.
The two I know have some demons like. Can't comment on them all and not sure how they could police that.
 
Thing is marra, your experience and your own feelings about your own body are probably worth far more than any doctors opinion.

I’m always interested to know what qualifications these mental health professionals have anyway, because I really feel like being/becoming a MHP requires that person to have had some personal experience of their own struggle.
I'm a mental health professional and believe me I'm "qualified". Probably the only condition I don't relate to from an experiential perspective is OCD as I'm too lazy for that shit.(but I do understand how it works and can therfore imagine how it would feel)
 
New to this board although followed it for many a year.

This thread was always of interest- Thing is I think I am depressed/ verging on being an an alcoholic .

Got two lush bairns one is nearly 3 and the other is nearly 9 months. It’s hard work very hard.

My other half (no) has severe health anxiety/ocd to the point it is near enough unbearable. She can’t manage her own money by checking her own bank account it’s all left to me. I do the family finances and manager hers. We visit A&E at least 3 times a month where she is constantly worrying about kids getting ill (any ailment she can always relate to cancer)

I feel miserable. I love her but I feel like most days I’m only coming home from graft for the bairns. I’ve contemplated suicide but I’m too much of a wimp to go through with that......so my solution is to drink. I’ll make any excuse to have a drink most nights. Any good news at work or a decent bet that might have dropped in. When I have a drink i feel a lot better (like now) and then In the morning (every time) I think. I won’t bother tonight....but the slightest setback in the day changes all that. Every time she texts me at work I get anxious when I see her name pop up. Can’t explain how hard she is to live with.

So what I want to know is ....Am I depressed or am I an alcoholic- Or both? I’m feeling the latter tbh.

Been really hard for me to write this. For the record my normal night even In the week would be at least a bottle of wine, but been known regularly to do a 35cl of vodka and more. I genuinely feel if I wasn’t depressed about life in general I could control it
 
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