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Depression thread continued...

Good morning all, if anyone is interested in coming along to Andy's Man Club for a chat/socialise, etc these are the local groups and will be around from 18:30 - 21:00 today:

Kayll Road Library, Sunderland, SR4 7TW
Beacon Of Light, Sunderland, SR5 1SN
The Old Rectory, Houghton le Spring, DH4 4BB
Washington Mind, Washington, NE38 7LP
Glebe Centre, Seaham, SR7 9BX
Souter Lighthouse, Sunderland, SR6 7NH
The Elgin Centre, Gateshead, NE9 5PA
Wallsend Boys Club, Wallsend, NE28 8SX
Pelaw View Centre, Durham, DH1 2EH
Horden Social Welfare Centre, Horden, SR8 4LX
Northumbria University, Reds Bar, Newcastle, NE1 8SB

If you live outside the area, you can find your local group
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Had a challenging week, ending up with drinking too much this weekend to hide it, old habits die hard I guess.

Been soul searching if the benefits of the forum out weight the negatives, also just the internet in general and day to day news, its really been weighing me down for some time. I just despair more often than not at the state of the world.

Added to this a bit of a bomb shell with my daughter and it hit hard this week, her husband has been gambling all the money away, to make matters worse, he borrowed a lot of money to "clear debts" and gambled that and then to try to win it back, took all the money from the kids savings and used that but has also ran up some debt in my daughters name, I mean they were married and she trusted him completely.

Been doing it long term it seems and had hid it quite well until its all come crashing down when my daughter tried to use a credit card for fuel, its left my daughter in a pickle, the lying really got to her more than the money I think, so its ended the marriage.

So spent all week trying to sort some of the mess left behind and what happens next, its been draining, I wasn't doing so great myself anyway and then this, been worried sick how to get her back on an even keel for the sake of her and my grandson, been stressful to say the least.

I just feel tired, worn down, its a never ending cycle of issues it seems, I feel selfish feeling sorry for myself when so many other people around the world have it so much worse, funny but I dont feel any anger towards him, he needs help, its a low thing to steal from his kids, but I still dont feel any anger, just sad.

I dont have anyone to talk to about this stuff, so thought I would just vent here, feels like a lifetime ago when I felt something other than just being sad.

Anyway, think I will take a break from the internet, need to do something to lift my mood.
 
chrismisterx said:
Had a challenging week, ending up with drinking too much this weekend to hide it, old habits die hard I guess.

Been soul searching if the benefits of the forum out weight the negatives, also just the internet in general and day to day news, its really been weighing me down for some time. I just despair more often than not at the state of the world.

Added to this a bit of a bomb shell with my daughter and it hit hard this week, her husband has been gambling all the money away, to make matters worse, he borrowed a lot of money to "clear debts" and gambled that and then to try to win it back, took all the money from the kids savings and used that but has also ran up some debt in my daughters name, I mean they were married and she trusted him completely.

Been doing it long term it seems and had hid it quite well until its all come crashing down when my daughter tried to use a credit card for fuel, its left my daughter in a pickle, the lying really got to her more than the money I think, so its ended the marriage.

So spent all week trying to sort some of the mess left behind and what happens next, its been draining, I wasn't doing so great myself anyway and then this, been worried sick how to get her back on an even keel for the sake of her and my grandson, been stressful to say the least.

I just feel tired, worn down, its a never ending cycle of issues it seems, I feel selfish feeling sorry for myself when so many other people around the world have it so much worse, funny but I dont feel any anger towards him, he needs help, its a low thing to steal from his kids, but I still dont feel any anger, just sad.

I dont have anyone to talk to about this stuff, so thought I would just vent here, feels like a lifetime ago when I felt something other than just being sad.

Anyway, think I will take a break from the internet, need to do something to lift my mood.
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It's a sad situation you have on your hands, but also one that is becoming more and more common these days. Gambling, like drugs has become endemic within our society and causes all sorts of issues. Sadly your family have become the victim of it. Denise Coates (CEO of B365) regularly takes a total annual salary of £150-£250m, which is generated out of other people's misery. I can see why you don't feel angry towards your daughter's ex husband as maybe you recognise that chronic gambling is a form of mental illness / addiction. Hopefully he can get the help he needs and your daughter can move on with her life.

It's very tough for your family to go through this, but just remember that your daughter will be able to move on from it and money isn't everything. Family and supportive relationships are much more important. So just try your best to be there for each other and hopefully things will get better as time goes on.
 
chrismisterx said:
Had a challenging week, ending up with drinking too much this weekend to hide it, old habits die hard I guess.

Been soul searching if the benefits of the forum out weight the negatives, also just the internet in general and day to day news, its really been weighing me down for some time. I just despair more often than not at the state of the world.

Added to this a bit of a bomb shell with my daughter and it hit hard this week, her husband has been gambling all the money away, to make matters worse, he borrowed a lot of money to "clear debts" and gambled that and then to try to win it back, took all the money from the kids savings and used that but has also ran up some debt in my daughters name, I mean they were married and she trusted him completely.

Been doing it long term it seems and had hid it quite well until its all come crashing down when my daughter tried to use a credit card for fuel, its left my daughter in a pickle, the lying really got to her more than the money I think, so its ended the marriage.

So spent all week trying to sort some of the mess left behind and what happens next, its been draining, I wasn't doing so great myself anyway and then this, been worried sick how to get her back on an even keel for the sake of her and my grandson, been stressful to say the least.

I just feel tired, worn down, its a never ending cycle of issues it seems, I feel selfish feeling sorry for myself when so many other people around the world have it so much worse, funny but I dont feel any anger towards him, he needs help, its a low thing to steal from his kids, but I still dont feel any anger, just sad.

I dont have anyone to talk to about this stuff, so thought I would just vent here, feels like a lifetime ago when I felt something other than just being sad.

Anyway, think I will take a break from the internet, need to do something to lift my mood.
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First of all, drinking too much to hide the pain or dampen your thoughts is a maladaptive coping method. And I'm the absolute queen of the maladaptive coping method. You deal with stress or difficulty or depression in this way and although it gives a sort of temporary relief, in the long term it makes matters worse. Ha ha. I can dish out the advice find it harder to practice in real life. But it is a sign, use it as this and look for other ways to destress, relax etc.

As far as your daughters horrendous experience. I had a cousin who went through exactly the same thing. He re-morgaged their home. He was kicked to the kerb. They had two young sons. Took 10 years but she's there, happy and safe. She was a teacher so he couldn't touch her pension. Hope things aren't as bad with your daughter but using this story to let you know. She (with your help), will get through this.
 
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chrismisterx said:
Had a challenging week, ending up with drinking too much this weekend to hide it, old habits die hard I guess.

Been soul searching if the benefits of the forum out weight the negatives, also just the internet in general and day to day news, its really been weighing me down for some time. I just despair more often than not at the state of the world.

Added to this a bit of a bomb shell with my daughter and it hit hard this week, her husband has been gambling all the money away, to make matters worse, he borrowed a lot of money to "clear debts" and gambled that and then to try to win it back, took all the money from the kids savings and used that but has also ran up some debt in my daughters name, I mean they were married and she trusted him completely.

Been doing it long term it seems and had hid it quite well until its all come crashing down when my daughter tried to use a credit card for fuel, its left my daughter in a pickle, the lying really got to her more than the money I think, so its ended the marriage.

So spent all week trying to sort some of the mess left behind and what happens next, its been draining, I wasn't doing so great myself anyway and then this, been worried sick how to get her back on an even keel for the sake of her and my grandson, been stressful to say the least.

I just feel tired, worn down, its a never ending cycle of issues it seems, I feel selfish feeling sorry for myself when so many other people around the world have it so much worse, funny but I dont feel any anger towards him, he needs help, its a low thing to steal from his kids, but I still dont feel any anger, just sad.

I dont have anyone to talk to about this stuff, so thought I would just vent here, feels like a lifetime ago when I felt something other than just being sad.

Anyway, think I will take a break from the internet, need to do something to lift my mood.
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On yer last point mate happy for a walk/talk n bet others on here are too.
 
chrismisterx said:
Had a challenging week, ending up with drinking too much this weekend to hide it, old habits die hard I guess.

Been soul searching if the benefits of the forum out weight the negatives, also just the internet in general and day to day news, its really been weighing me down for some time. I just despair more often than not at the state of the world.

Added to this a bit of a bomb shell with my daughter and it hit hard this week, her husband has been gambling all the money away, to make matters worse, he borrowed a lot of money to "clear debts" and gambled that and then to try to win it back, took all the money from the kids savings and used that but has also ran up some debt in my daughters name, I mean they were married and she trusted him completely.

Been doing it long term it seems and had hid it quite well until its all come crashing down when my daughter tried to use a credit card for fuel, its left my daughter in a pickle, the lying really got to her more than the money I think, so its ended the marriage.

So spent all week trying to sort some of the mess left behind and what happens next, its been draining, I wasn't doing so great myself anyway and then this, been worried sick how to get her back on an even keel for the sake of her and my grandson, been stressful to say the least.

I just feel tired, worn down, its a never ending cycle of issues it seems, I feel selfish feeling sorry for myself when so many other people around the world have it so much worse, funny but I dont feel any anger towards him, he needs help, its a low thing to steal from his kids, but I still dont feel any anger, just sad.

I dont have anyone to talk to about this stuff, so thought I would just vent here, feels like a lifetime ago when I felt something other than just being sad.

Anyway, think I will take a break from the internet, need to do something to lift my mood.
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Hope you’re feeling better mate. I drink to mask as well.

Even though I know it’s wrong I still do it. And you always have someone to talk to about things. Just posting on this thread you have all of us to talk to.
 
I highly suggest anyone with depression to look into the plant medicine ayahuasca. It is a game changer, your life will change forever.

Make sure it is with a reputable shaman and get lots of references.
 
cmmackem said:
I highly suggest anyone with depression to look into the plant medicine ayahuasca. It is a game changer, your life will change forever.

Make sure it is with a reputable shaman and get lots of references.
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Apologies, but I think this is a bit ropey. Appreciate it's probably posted with good intention, but I'm not sure anyone should be recommending alternative medicine. You have no idea how someone might react to it.
 
FatCat2402 said:
Apologies, but I think this is a bit ropey. Appreciate it's probably posted with good intention, but I'm not sure anyone should be recommending alternative medicine. You have no idea how someone might react to it.
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That is why experienced and reputable shaman consult first. Medical history, medication etc.

My life has changed completely. I can't even drink alchohol anymore(It has killed that habit), no more down days, everything is positive and anything is possible. Remember, this is a trusted medicine that has been used for 1000s of years.

It is not a magic pill, it just gives you the tools to change your life around, heal and grow.

This was posted with the best intentions.
 
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cmmackem said:
That is why experienced and reputable shaman consult first. Medical history, medication etc.

My life has changed completely. I can't even drink alchohol anymore(It has killed that habit), no more down days, everything is positive and anything is possible. Remember, this is a trusted medicine that has been used for 1000s of years.

It is not a magic pill, it just gives you the tools to change your life around, heal and grow.

This was posted with the best intentions.
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Id be wary taking too much mental health advice from a Shaman mind.

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Id be wary taking too much mental health advice from a Shaman mind.

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They do not give advice, and anyone who does, you should avoid. You do the work, no one else.

They hold space(Very important), make sure everyone is "good" and safe, perform the icaros, etc.
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They do not give advice, and anyone who does, you should avoid. You do the work, no one else.

They hold space(Very important), make sure everyone is "good" and safe, perform the icaros, etc.
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Also, make sure that they have done their training in the amazon, Peru or Brazil and ask them which lineage. Again, get references.
 
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They do not give advice, and anyone who does, you should avoid. You do the work, no one else.

They hold space(Very important), make sure everyone is "good" and safe, perform the icaros, etc.


Also, make sure that they have done their training in the amazon, Peru or Brazil and ask them which lineage. Again, get references.
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Is that plant you mentioned not illegal in the UK?
 
38Red said:
Class A
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Is it really in the UK? In many countries and states in the USA it is not. You would have to go overseas to do a ceremony then.
FatCat2402 said:
Am I misunderstanding something here. Surely we can't have people on the forum recommending people take class A substances as a remedy for depression.

The whole point of this particular thread is to help each other not to get them arrested !
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Oh, I had no idea, sorry.

Do some research on it, it assists in eliminating addictions, PTSD and depression. It is non-addictive.
 
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Anyone have the type of depression that would be alleviated by having a life where people treated you fairly?

Why should I dope myself up; it's everyone else that sucks. 😆

"Doctor, I keep getting punched in the face; do you have any powerful brain drugs that make me not mind it as much?"


Naw, get it up ye.
 
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S.S.R.. said:
Anyone have the type of depression that would be alleviated by having a life where people treated you fairly?

Why should I dope myself up; it's everyone else that sucks. 😆

"Doctor, I keep getting punched in the face; do you have any powerful brain drugs that make me not mind it as much?"


Naw, get it up ye.
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That reminds me of a South Park episode I can relate to :lol:

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cmmackem said:
Is it really in the UK? In many countries and states in the USA it is not. You would have to go overseas to do a ceremony then.


Oh, I had no idea, sorry.

Do some research on it, it assists in eliminating addictions, PTSD and depression. It is non-addictive.
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A ceremony? I don't want to get married. I'm depressed enough man

(apologies to Mrs FC of course)
 
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