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Hetty said:
Morning all, how is everyone doing?

Anxiety has been slightly up the past week, but find ways to distract from it which tends to bring it down

Don't sleep well either lately
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I'm in the same boat; suffer from lack of sleep, which then leads to suicidal thoughts. I've got a GP appointment booked next week to discuss possible despression, I want to avoid taking meds but I'm not sure what else can be offered other than CBT and counselling but I've been on the waiting list for the latter since December.
 
Springwell Mackem said:
I'm in the same boat; suffer from lack of sleep, which then leads to suicidal thoughts. I've got a GP appointment booked next week to discuss possible despression, I want to avoid taking meds but I'm not sure what else can be offered other than CBT and counselling but I've been on the waiting list for the latter since December.
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long waiting times atm, took me 18 months wait for my last sessions.

But some things can help in the meantime, diet, routines, breathing exercises and such like, so dont lose hope while you wait, mean thing is to talk about it, some people on here have so much knowledge and can be a great help, pointing you in the right direction to help thats readily available while you wait.

I too also wont take pills, its hard, as my GP likes to dish pills out like sweeties, but there is stuff out there that can help manage things.
 
Hetty said:
Morning all, how is everyone doing?

Anxiety has been slightly up the past week, but find ways to distract from it which tends to bring it down

Don't sleep well either lately
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I've been struggling to get to sleep. Lack of proper routine when off work is part of it but I am finding myself getting really anxious when I close my eyes to try and sleep. All the bad things that are going on in my life just race through me head while I'm trying to sleep. I'm not even safe when I am asleep as I have bad dreams that seem so real that they wake me and I'm afraid to go back to sleep.
 
Gennaro Savastano said:
I've been struggling to get to sleep. Lack of proper routine when off work is part of it but I am finding myself getting really anxious when I close my eyes to try and sleep. All the bad things that are going on in my life just race through me head while I'm trying to sleep. I'm not even safe when I am asleep as I have bad dreams that seem so real that they wake me and I'm afraid to go back to sleep.
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I can fall asleep when tired at night, but then wake up and hour or so later and then all through the night and can't get back to sleep

Some of my dreams are memories and with people not with us anymore, or ppl i know now

Worse ones are trying to run and i can't lol
 
Hetty said:
I can fall asleep when tired at night, but then wake up and hour or so later and then all through the night and can't get back to sleep

Some of my dreams are memories and with people not with us anymore, or ppl i know now

Worse ones are trying to run and i can't lol
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Yeah some of mine start off as memories but then go off on a tangent where worse and worse things happen. It feels so real at the time even though some of the scenarios are ridiculous.
 
Gennaro Savastano said:
Yeah some of mine start off as memories but then go off on a tangent where worse and worse things happen. It feels so real at the time even though some of the scenarios are ridiculous.
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sounds a bit like night terrors mate, I suffered for years with them and still do.

Its important to get grounded when they happen, as like you say its so real and can be jarring.

Beathing helps, either square breathing if you can focus on something or if its dark using a nose breathing technique, also strong flavoured sweets next to your bed, like fishermen's friends to break the moment and bring you back to the now, to end the racing thoughts as quickly as possible as you will be in fight or flight mode.

The nose breathing works like this.

use you thumb to block one side of you nose breath in and out with the other side then swap to your index finger to block the other side of the nose, breath in and out again.

The thinking about which finger or thumb to use with the breathing takes your mind of the thoughts as you are focused on the movement of fingers and the breathing, its not prefect but has helped me in the past.
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chrismisterx said:
sounds a bit like night terrors mate, I suffered for years with them and still do.

Its important to get grounded when they happen, as like you say its so real and can be jarring.

Beathing helps, either square breathing if you can focus on something or if its dark using a nose breathing technique, also strong flavoured sweets next to your bed, like fishermen's friends to break the moment and bring you back to the now, to end the racing thoughts as quickly as possible as you will be in fight or flight mode.

The nose breathing works like this.

use you thumb to block one side of you nose breath in and out with the other side then swap to your index finger to block the other side of the nose, breath in and out again.

The thinking about which finger or thumb to use with the breathing takes your mind of the thoughts as you are focused on the movement of fingers and the breathing, its not prefect but has helped me in the past.
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Found a video that explains it better than I did.

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Thanks I'll give it a try. I used to get them from time to time before but it seems to be every night now.
 
Gennaro Savastano said:
Thanks I'll give it a try. I used to get them from time to time before but it seems to be every night now.
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No problem mate, I find high stressful times tend to bring on more attacks, guess its something to do with how my brain is "broken" and doesnt unwind during sleep like normal people, or something like that I guess.

Kind of get used to it after so many years that it just becomes a new normal.

I would add since I swapped to decaf I am less anxious during the night, seems caffeine was an issue for me a touch, maybe something to look into if things dont improve, good luck with it, its a royal pain in the ass to deal while.
 
chrismisterx said:
No problem mate, I find high stressful times tend to bring on more attacks, guess its something to do with how my brain is "broken" and doesnt unwind during sleep like normal people, or something like that I guess.

Kind of get used to it after so many years that it just becomes a new normal.

I would add since I swapped to decaf I am less anxious during the night, seems caffeine was an issue for me a touch, maybe something to look into if things dont improve, good luck with it, its a royal pain in the ass to deal while.
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I've pretty much cut my coffee intake to one cup first thing on a morning. Also need to try and minimise my alcohol intake as I know that's just a temporary fix for a bigger problem.
 
Evening all.
Dreams are mad arnt they. I think sometimes when I’m suffering bad I sleep more as the dreams are better than n my normal life.

Like if I’m stressed about going to work I dream that I’ve already been. Then wake up thinking fuck off man I havnt.

Other week I put food shopping off all day then fell asleep on sofa and I was adamant I’d already been. Nope!
f***ing proper retard me like.

Hope we are all kicking on.
 
Rhubarb said:
Evening all.
Dreams are mad arnt they. I think sometimes when I’m suffering bad I sleep more as the dreams are better than n my normal life.

Like if I’m stressed about going to work I dream that I’ve already been. Then wake up thinking fuck off man I havnt.

Other week I put food shopping off all day then fell asleep on sofa and I was adamant I’d already been. Nope!
f***ing proper retard me like.

Hope we are all kicking on.
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Regularly had dreams in the past where I was at work and it was Friday only to wake up to my Monday morning alarm. Sickner.
 
Gennaro Savastano said:
Regularly had dreams in the past where I was at work and it was Friday only to wake up to my Monday morning alarm. Sickner.
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Son woke up, ran downstairs in a hurry thinking he was late for work and off he goes, only to come back an hour later when the factory was shut because it was a Saturday, funny how the brain works sometimes isnt it. Give me a good laugh at least, he didn't find it funny .
 
chrismisterx said:
Son woke up, ran downstairs in a hurry thinking he was late for work and off he goes, only to come back an hour later when the factory was shut because it was a Saturday, funny how the brain works sometimes isnt it. Give me a good laugh at least, he didn't find it funny .
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I did that once but realised when my lift didn't turn up. Was proper hungover as well. Straight back to bed. Put my school uniform on a few times and went downstairs for breakfast on a Saturday back in the day as well. :lol:
 
Hetty said:
Morning all, how is everyone doing?

Anxiety has been slightly up the past week, but find ways to distract from it which tends to bring it down

Don't sleep well either lately
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My sleep is terrible at the moment but that is cos I am upside down - you know what I mean.

Stroke a koala bear, that might bring your anxiety down. They do stink tho little buggers. Hope you feel better soon
 
Gennaro Savastano said:
I will try but if I was a landlord I wouldn't want to let my flat to me.
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Nope don't think like that straight out the gate. Think, you have a good chance. I know things have been bleak for you lately, but hopefully this is a turning point....and if you don't get this one your turning point is just a little way up the road still. Good luck.
 
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