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Defoe or Ibrahimovic

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Monkey man said:
I believe he is a lot more intelligent than Defoe and would create more chances with his general play and clever runs he makes. He's is also a beast in the air as well as his feet. He really is an all rounder.
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Create more chances for who?!!! Defoe is practically the only 1 who scores, hence why the op said in our current team. The stats back it up, ibra 15 goals and 3 assists, Defoe 14 goals and 2assists in a team in bottom 3 all season
 
I love Defoe, love him. But Ibrahimivic is f***ing world class man. However, his nose is ridiculously big, in fact it's massive. For that reason alone I choose Defoe
 
pwsafc said:
Create more chances for who?!!! Defoe is practically the only 1 who scores, hence why the op said in our current team. The stats back it up, ibra 15 goals and 3 assists, Defoe 14 goals and 2assists in a team in bottom 3 all season
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And Defoe plays for Sunderland and Ibrahimovic plays for Man united. There's a reason for that.
 
pwsafc said:
Of course he would, it baffles me why one of the top sides haven't come in for him, he scores for fun in a shite team, imagine what he would do in a top team
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Another myth. Defoe wouldn't score as many for a top side for a number of reasons.

1) he wouldn't be on penalty duty
2) his game is all about playing on the shoulder of the last man, very hard to do against teams that will park the bus
3) Defoe was never quite good enough for a top team. He scores a lot for us, and he's about the best we can attract but for a top team hed need a higher conversion of shots/goals ratio (there's a reason Spurs is the highest level he's reached)
4) his game is one dimensional. He can get away with it for us but for a top team you want a striker to contribute significantly more to the build up play. (Would like to see stats on amount of touches per game)

Another SMB myth busted folks
 
Bit of an odd question, as I don't think our team are good enough to carry ibra in the way he needs. So I'd keep Defoe.

Defoe is a supreme goal scorer and likely to be a club legend, but Ibra-can't-be-arsed-to-add-to-dictionary-avich is a world class centre forward. Objectively, he is the better player.
 
pwsafc said:
Of course he would, it baffles me why one of the top sides haven't come in for him, he scores for fun in a shite team, imagine what he would do in a top team
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Not sure he'd do more really, we have zero options other than him so our plan A, B, C and D is based around getting the ball to him in the box.

There's a reason why his last two seasons have been the best two of his career aside from one year at Spurs.
 
Jay said:
Another myth. Defoe wouldn't score as many for a top side for a number of reasons.

1) he wouldn't be on penalty duty
2) his game is all about playing on the shoulder of the last man, very hard to do against teams that will park the bus
3) Defoe was never quite good enough for a top team. He scores a lot for us, and he's about the best we can attract but for a top team hed need a higher conversion of shots/goals ratio (there's a reason Spurs is the highest level he's reached)
4) his game is one dimensional. He can get away with it for us but for a top team you want a striker to contribute significantly more to the build up play. (Would like to see stats on amount of touches per game)

Another SMB myth busted folks
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Let's see the stats
 
Jay said:
Another myth. Defoe wouldn't score as many for a top side for a number of reasons.

1) he wouldn't be on penalty duty
2) his game is all about playing on the shoulder of the last man, very hard to do against teams that will park the bus
3) Defoe was never quite good enough for a top team. He scores a lot for us, and he's about the best we can attract but for a top team hed need a higher conversion of shots/goals ratio (there's a reason Spurs is the highest level he's reached)
4) his game is one dimensional. He can get away with it for us but for a top team you want a striker to contribute significantly more to the build up play. (Would like to see stats on amount of touches per game)

Another SMB myth busted folks
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Mag
 
Jay said:
Another myth. Defoe wouldn't score as many for a top side for a number of reasons.

1) he wouldn't be on penalty duty
2) his game is all about playing on the shoulder of the last man, very hard to do against teams that will park the bus
3) Defoe was never quite good enough for a top team. He scores a lot for us, and he's about the best we can attract but for a top team hed need a higher conversion of shots/goals ratio (there's a reason Spurs is the highest level he's reached)
4) his game is one dimensional. He can get away with it for us but for a top team you want a striker to contribute significantly more to the build up play. (Would like to see stats on amount of touches per game)

Another SMB myth busted folks
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Sorry mate, can you be a bit more condescending there, I'm not sure we're getting the full effect of your mind bending arrogance.
 
Jay said:
Another myth. Defoe wouldn't score as many for a top side for a number of reasons.

1) he wouldn't be on penalty duty
2) his game is all about playing on the shoulder of the last man, very hard to do against teams that will park the bus
3) Defoe was never quite good enough for a top team. He scores a lot for us, and he's about the best we can attract but for a top team hed need a higher conversion of shots/goals ratio (there's a reason Spurs is the highest level he's reached)
4) his game is one dimensional. He can get away with it for us but for a top team you want a striker to contribute significantly more to the build up play. (Would like to see stats on amount of touches per game)

Another SMB myth busted folks
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Don't even know where to start with that, there's some shit posted on here, but this is pretty much top of the list. You have no idea if he would be on pelanty duty or not . A higher conversion ratio! He had 3 shots last wk and scores 2. Playing on the shoulder of the last man has got him some goals, aswell as tap ins, screamers, scoring from crosses. His game is 1 dimensional!!! You need to start understanding football more. PLEASE TRY AGAIN

MarcoG said:
Not sure he'd do more really, we have zero options other than him so our plan A, B, C and D is based around getting the ball to him in the box.

There's a reason why his last two seasons have been the best two of his career aside from one year at Spurs.
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Some people on here really are clueless, the reason is he's playing regular not been rotated. Look at his goals to chances ratio, he's a top class finisher

Monkey man said:
And Defoe plays for Sunderland and Ibrahimovic plays for Man united. There's a reason for that.
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Wages nothing more, ibra wouldn't score the goals Defoe has in our side
 
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Great thread.

Obviously Ibra is amazing. World class. He's f***ing Zlatan, 24/7. A joy to watch, though this Man Utd team is making me waver on that.

Defoe is scoring for fun even when we're playing League One standard. Finishing is an art for him, and it's exactly what we need as we don't make many chances. Wouldn't swap him for anyone but Aguero, Messi or Ronaldo at this exact point in time. (I probably wouldn't even do that. They'd all get stroppy, whereas Defoe has been a model professional, a genuine role-model (on the pitch, dirty bassa ;) ))
 
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pwsafc said:
Don't even know where to start with that, there's some shit posted on here, but this is pretty much top of the list. You have no idea if he would be on pelanty duty or not . A higher conversion ratio! He had 3 shots last wk and scores 2. Playing on the shoulder of the last man has got him some goals, aswell as tap ins, screamers, scoring from crosses. His game is 1 dimensional!!! You need to start understanding football more. PLEASE TRY AGAIN


Some people on here really are clueless, the reason is he's playing regular not been rotated. Look at his goals to chances ratio, he's a top class finisher


Wages nothing more, ibra wouldn't score the goals Defoe has in our side
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Ibrahimovic would have been on penalty duty aswell as free kicks so I believe he would have.
 
pwsafc said:
Don't even know where to start with that, there's some shit posted on here, but this is pretty much top of the list. You have no idea if he would be on pelanty duty or not . A higher conversion ratio! He had 3 shots last wk and scores 2. Playing on the shoulder of the last man has got him some goals, aswell as tap ins, screamers, scoring from crosses. His game is 1 dimensional!!! You need to start understanding football more. PLEASE TRY AGAIN


Some people on here really are clueless, the reason is he's playing regular not been rotated. Look at his goals to chances ratio, he's a top class finisher
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Why take one game in isolation? I'm talking about his entire career, I've watched him closely at the peak of his powers and chalked him down as a good striker (very good, for anyone outside the top 6), but quite far off the elite bracket.

He has a powerful shot but for me he had to have a greater appreciation of team mates when they're in better placed positions. His finished was also erratic at times (likes a random smash at the near post with his left foot for example).

Looking at the clubs he's played for pretty much nails my theory. Haven't seen the stats again but I'm guessing majority of his England appearances came from the bench

Knew it would be a touchy subject on here mind :lol:

Like I said, he is a very good striker and the best we could attract. However if you're going to compare him to one of the greatest strikers in the modern era then I am going to critique him harshly
 
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