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Tbf worse ideas. Get boxes in there. Cheap to do. More income. Capacity down to 43 or 44K would be seen as sufficient by club I suspectI mentioned on here back when the concourse was shut that I wouldnāt be surprised to see private boxes all along the very back of it as it very very rarely sells out up there. Our favourite suspected salmon pant wearer gave it a like. So errrh up there somehow.
Quality!
Clubs with ambition expand their arenas not downsize....I cannot think of another example can you?The boxes will be for concerts as the facilities are not good enough to attract enough premium tickets and promoters will go elsewhere.Tbf worse ideas. Get boxes in there. Cheap to do. More income. Capacity down to 43 or 44K would be seen as sufficient by club I suspect
They will need planning permission!Anybody on here got access /link to council planning dept ?Bob reckons Ā£40m/50m+ cost....its in one of his posts in that region
I look often and theres nothing in planning, everybody would be all over it if there wasQuality!
Clubs with ambition expand their arenas not downsize....I cannot think of another example can you?The boxes will be for concerts as the facilities are not good enough to attract enough premium tickets and promoters will go elsewhere.
They will need planning permission!Anybody on here got access /link to council planning dept ?
High earning commercial area worth far more than seats.Quality!
Clubs with ambition expand their arenas not downsize....I cannot think of another example can you?The boxes will be for concerts as the facilities are not good enough to attract enough premium tickets and promoters will go elsewhere.
They will need planning permission!Anybody on here got access /link to council planning dept ?
Maybe so but i asked for an example of an ambitious club that reduces the size of their ground rather than expanding it?Its a simple answer really there isnt one!...........whatever we do it will be done on the cheap amd look a right lopsided mess unless we add some seats as well!Your not going to attract premium supporters to watch mediocre crap on the pitch so it will mostly done to attract concert business!High earning commercial area worth far more than seats.
Leeds downsized Elland Road to fit in more hospitality. Went from 40000 to 36000 ishMaybe so but i asked for an example of an ambitious club that reduces the size of their ground rather than expanding it?Its a simple answer really there isnt one!...........whatever we do it will be done on the cheap amd look a right lopsided mess unless we add some seats as well!Your not going to attract premium supporters to watch mediocre crap on the pitch so it will mostly done to attract concert business!
Leeds done itMaybe so but i asked for an example of an ambitious club that reduces the size of their ground rather than expanding it?Its a simple answer really there isnt one!...........whatever we do it will be done on the cheap amd look a right lopsided mess unless we add some seats as well!Your not going to attract premium supporters to watch mediocre crap on the pitch so it will mostly done to attract concert business!
Do you know how long these things take to sort out as it looks like the earliest start would be summer 2025.......i wonder if its just a case of putting your marker down before all the new building work around the ground gets finished as they might object to east stand expansion..I know the south stand has had permission granted before but i dont think the east stand has...... so the club is just future proofing its asset!It makes more sense to use the east stand for development first as the south stand is where the concert stage is and would be useless for concerts.I look often and theres nothing in planning, everybody would be all over it if there was
I was just floating the idea lol.Maybe so but i asked for an example of an ambitious club that reduces the size of their ground rather than expanding it?Its a simple answer really there isnt one!...........whatever we do it will be done on the cheap amd look a right lopsided mess unless we add some seats as well!Your not going to attract premium supporters to watch mediocre crap on the pitch so it will mostly done to attract concert business!
when did they do that?Leeds downsized Elland Road to fit in more hospitality. Went from 40000 to 36000 ish
2 months minimum on most cases I think..the studios have just took from November to March which is a huge projectDo you know how long these things take to sort out as it looks like the earliest start would be summer 2025.......i wonder if its just a case of putting your marker down before all the new building work around the ground gets finished as they might object to east stand expansion..I know the south stand has had permission granted before but i dont think the east stand has...... so the club is just future proofing its asset!It makes more sense to use the east stand for development first as the south stand is where the concert stage is and would be useless for concerts.
Who cares about empty seats ffs.I was just floating the idea lol.
Either way I don't want a 55k sol capacity with thousands and thousands of empty seats every week that we'll never fill.
Its that ambition thing again!do we have ambition ? do we hold our club back because some supporters don;t like empty seats "its small minded ,,if your spending multi millions on raising the roof of the east stand and hoying in a few boxes it would be cost effective ( in long term)to put extra seats in as well especially for concerts.....I have pride in the sol and would like any development to look good and in keeping with the rest of the ground..I was just floating the idea lol.
Either way I don't want a 55k sol capacity with thousands and thousands of empty seats every week that we'll never fill.
Fair enough...I'm ambitious but as a fan of well over 40 years maybe a bit more cynical of us ever having a team on the pitch that would fill 55k seats. As it stands longest spell outside top flight. Ever.Its that ambition thing again!do we have ambition ? do we hold our club back because some supporters don;t like empty seats "its small minded ,,if your spending multi millions on raising the roof of the east stand and hoying in a few boxes it would be cost effective ( in long term)to put extra seats in as well especially for concerts.....I have pride in the sol and would like any development to look good and in keeping with the rest of the ground..
Leeds downsized Elland Road to fit in more hospitality. Went from 40000 to 36000
Catch 22 really but if we dont have ambition that record is just going to get longer and longer....the team should always come first then the rest follows..my assertion is that the football is secondary to our owners!Fair enough...I'm ambitious but as a fan of well over 40 years maybe a bit more cynical of us ever having a team on the pitch that would fill 55k seats. As it stands longest spell outside top flight. Ever.
Have we asked the mags yet? KLD will want to check how they feel about this.
Manchester city also did it to put in those extra advertising hoardings to make them look double the size, so there's two clubs, not none whatsoeverEdit ...i dont know when they did that do you?..they do have plans to extend the ground to 55.000 though!... its called ambition!
Catch 22 really but if we dont have ambition that record is just going to get longer and longer....the team should always come first then the rest follows..my assertion is that the football is secondary to our owners!