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Craft Beer

For some reason I just don’t get bloody notifications for this thread. Grrrr. Anyway nice little lineup in the Isis. Sours, wheat beer 🤢 And a sickly sweet stout. On half protocol and it’s only 2pm :lol:
Longy said:
Getting quiet on here.

I’m off to Eindhoven in a couple of weeks & will sample stuff.

Let’s get a conversation going. First beer to get you into craft. I’d had Punk IPA & thought it was shite. My first one was the Evil Twin x BrewDog Vietnamese Coffee Stout from Tesco during Covid. That was a f***ing belter. £3 a can too. Bargain.
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It’s punk ipa in its original guise mid-2000s that reeled me in. I don’t mind admitting that prior to the pandemic their overworks mixed ferm and wild stuff was f***ing lovely. Some amazing stuff. Shame they’re such c***s now.
 
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Longy said:
What’s the stout?

Never liked wheat beers like.

I tend to do halves in there like just so I can get through a few different ones.
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It’s you bag like, sickly sweet as owt
James said:
I forgot to post photos of the results of that Fizzics machine I bought. Since it's the start of Oktoberfest today here's a silly Czech-style Mliko pour of an Augustiner to showcase its big foam abilities. You can see the bubble size is super tiny which creates this nice wet foam.

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From a bit of playing around it is class with lagers, adds creaminess to IPAs/pales, and works well to turn most bottles ales into less carbonated messes. It can't save things like Guinness original which are so overly carbonated though, I tried that last night.

Obviously you don't need to pour everything with such a massive head but it's far more fun to do it with the lagers. :)
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I get paid next week. I may have to indulge
 

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Longy said:
Getting quiet on here.

I’m off to Eindhoven in a couple of weeks & will sample stuff.

Let’s get a conversation going. First beer to get you into craft. I’d had Punk IPA & thought it was shite. My first one was the Evil Twin x BrewDog Vietnamese Coffee Stout from Tesco during Covid. That was a f***ing belter. £3 a can too. Bargain.
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I remember having that one, was a nitro stout. Very nice
 
Longy said:
Getting quiet on here.

I’m off to Eindhoven in a couple of weeks & will sample stuff.

Let’s get a conversation going. First beer to get you into craft. I’d had Punk IPA & thought it was shite. My first one was the Evil Twin x BrewDog Vietnamese Coffee Stout from Tesco during Covid. That was a f***ing belter. £3 a can too. Bargain.
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I wish I could remember.

I’ve drank cask since the late 90s. The distinction between real ale and everything else was always something that I was conscious of, but it didn’t extend to stuff I drank at home. I drank both bottle conditioned and filtered drinks in the house. So I’ll have had craft beer of some description a very long time ago, either from bottle or can.

As far as the craft on tap is concerned, I resisted for a bit, but the strong stouts I had about a decade ago would definitely have opened the floodgates.
 
PTR said:
Just in case you don't know, the brewer at the time left and went to Thornbridge, and remade that same beer - Jaipur.
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Jaipur was knocking about in ’Spoons on cask a few months ago. Was drinking it down Coventry for the play offs.

Only been in one since, Jamesons the other week & the selection was poor. The clientele made me sad inside.
 
Longy said:
Jaipur was knocking about in ’Spoons on cask a few months ago. Was drinking it down Coventry for the play offs.
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Its madness how they're selling it so cheaply. Sadly, the only possible way is that they've reduced the quality of the product.
But aye, its a regular beer at spoons these days.
 
PTR said:
Just in case you don't know, the brewer at the time left and went to Thornbridge, and remade that same beer - Jaipur.
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Jaipur is a decent drink.

Punk IPA was far more potent when it first came out. One of many drinks that has been reduced into a weak as piss, near-tasteless, characterless form, for the benefit of sales to the masses. A bit like Hobgoblin. Original Hobgoblin tastes more like King Goblin does now. They’ve ruined it.
 
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Doogie Hauser said:
Jaipur is a decent drink.

Punk IPA was far more potent when it first came out. One of many drinks that has been reduced into a weak as piss, near-tasteless, characterless form, for the benefit of sales to the masses. A bit like Hobgoblin. Original Hobgoblin tastes more like King Goblin does now. They’ve ruined it.
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Sorry, just re-read your post, and there's 2 ways to take it. I now expect you meant the other one to what I read at first.

If so, aye, they changed it for the worse. IIRC, they wanted to move it to a dry-hopped product, and reduced the abv so that the extra hops didn't take the price up too much.
 
PTR said:
Sorry, just re-read your post, and there's 2 ways to take it. I now expect you meant the other one to what I read at first.

If so, aye, they changed it for the worse. IIRC, they wanted to move it to a dry-hopped product, and reduced the abv so that the extra hops didn't take the price up too much.
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No worries. I didn’t even pick up on it!
 
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FlyingLotus said:
Could stick a flake in that, etc.
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I'd send it back if it wasn't served that way. :-) Popped into the Trading Route today to try their foamy beers. Sadly it was a bit crap. The 7 min slow pour was good, but struggling to understand why they can't just serve that immediately.

Lidl have got their Oktoberfest beer set in at the moment. 10 bottles for 25 quid (or 30 if you don't have the app). I've had a couple of them tonight and they're better than I thought they'd be. Would recommend.
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The original Punk was 6% . Jaipur is 5.9%.

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I used to make this recipe myself, it was cracking.

Jaipur, at least originally and until fairly recently, was basically the same as original Punk IPA, made by the same person.
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Cask Jaipur is still a very good pint. At times it's exceptional. Had a blinder at the Colmore in Birmingham a year or so ago which I sometimes reminisce about and get emotional.
 
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Longy said:
Getting quiet on here.

I’m off to Eindhoven in a couple of weeks & will sample stuff.

Let’s get a conversation going. First beer to get you into craft. I’d had Punk IPA & thought it was shite. My first one was the Evil Twin x BrewDog Vietnamese Coffee Stout from Tesco during Covid. That was a f***ing belter. £3 a can too. Bargain.
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Does Oakham Citra count? That was the first that introduced me to American hops. After that it was Dead Pony.

For all their ills, of which there are obviously loads, BrewDog seem to have been the gateway for most of this group.
PTR said:
Just in case you don't know, the brewer at the time left and went to Thornbridge, and remade that same beer - Jaipur.
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Other way around wasn’t it? Martin Dickie worked at Thornbridge and when they setup BrewDog they used Jaipur as the basis for Punk.
 
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Longy said:
Getting quiet on here.

I’m off to Eindhoven in a couple of weeks & will sample stuff.

Let’s get a conversation going. First beer to get you into craft. I’d had Punk IPA & thought it was shite. My first one was the Evil Twin x BrewDog Vietnamese Coffee Stout from Tesco during Covid. That was a f***ing belter. £3 a can too. Bargain.
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Slightly off topic but my first light bulb moment regarding real ale was late eighties in a pub in Thirsk , my mate got the first round in, Tetleys Bitter, when I went up for the next round the
manager asked if I wanted keg or cask? Me being totally ignorant asked what was the difference, he poured a tumbler of each for me to try, the difference was astounding.
Been hooked ever since.
Oliver Reed to play me in the movie.
 
DoctorMick said:
Does Oakham Citra count? That was the first that introduced me to American hops. After that it was Dead Pony.

For all their ills, of which there are obviously loads, BrewDog seem to have been the gateway for most of this group.

Other way around wasn’t it? Martin Dickie worked at Thornbridge and when they setup BrewDog they used Jaipur as the basis for Punk.
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It was indeed
 
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