Christian Bakers Win "Gay Cake" Supreme Court appeal

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PinzaC55 said:
Your points are not points. They refused to sell a cake based on their own biases. Do you think as a general rule people should be able to do this or should religion get a "special pass" as it so often does ? Should a white person who hates black people be able to refuse them service in a shop ? Should people be entitled to refuse service based on their political views ? Where does it end ?



So if I ran a cake shop and a muslim came in and wanted a religious message on it and I refused to make it, do you think the case would have been resolved in the same way ?

I think you know it wouldn't.
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Are you being deliberately daft?
 
PinzaC55 said:
Your points are not points. They refused to sell a cake based on their own biases. Do you think as a general rule people should be able to do this or should religion get a "special pass" as it so often does ? Should a white person who hates black people be able to refuse them service in a shop ? Should people be entitled to refuse service based on their political views ? Where does it end ?



So if I ran a cake shop and a muslim came in and wanted a religious message on it and I refused to make it, do you think the case would have been resolved in the same way ?

I think you know it wouldn't.
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If a Muslim asked a Christian baker to make a cake on it that said "There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his Profit" the baker would not have to do so no. Now granted it's a very unlikely scenario that your tortuous logic dictates as an example. It nonetheless it's applicable all the same.

A gay baker would not be forced to make a cake with an anti-gay message on it either. It works multiple ways.

Some Random Guy said:
From what I remember neither side are actually paying for it. It's a religious interest group knobs and gay interest group knobs that have chosen to use this to fight their cause.
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Apparently the folk bankrolling the case will now have to repay fees of 250,000. Which I think rather highlights the hubris and generally unnecessary character of the whole thing.
 
Black Cat Gypsy said:
What are you talking about? How are their beliefs twisted? Christmas is both a Christian and secular holiday.
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As an atheist I find their attitude towards things like Gay marriage appalling. Why on earth should I be forced to produce a product for a group who make the choice to discriminate against others in society. I wouldnt make one for racists, I wont be making one for homophobes either.
 
Some Random Guy said:
It was very much their religious beliefs marra.
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It doesn't matter the source though ,let them crack on ,its their choice and i don't see a problem with them not doing something to suit someone else.There should be tolerance and respect both ways .
Kent_Mackem said:
There is a YouTube club of Craig Bellamy refusing to sign a Rangers top.

Just thought I'd offer that as a comparison. He didn't end up in court.
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Ask a Dj to play Kasabian and they'll refuse ,sounds spot on to me
 
sonson said:
If a Muslim asked a Christian baker to make a cake on it that said "There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his Profit" the baker would not have to do so no. Now granted it's a very unlikely scenario that your tortuous logic dictates as an example. It nonetheless it's applicable all the same.

A gay baker would not be forced to make a cake with an anti-gay message on it either. It works multiple ways.


Apparently the folk bankrolling the case will now have to repay fees of 250,000. Which I think rather highlights the hubris and generally unnecessary character of the whole thing.
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Surely they would agree on this given they both pray to the same God and often Christians will accept Muhammad as a prophet? Allah simply means God, Christians in Arabic countries also refer to God as Allah, as they speak Arabic. Jews who speak Arabic also refer to God as Allah.
 
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The Muffin Man said:
Surely they would agree on this given they both pray to the same God and often Christians will accept Muhammad as a prophet? Allah simply means God, Christians in Arabic countries also refer to God as Allah, as they speak Arabic.
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Depends on how Mo makes that "profit", both texts have problems with usury. ;)
 
JAZZMANB said:
It doesn't matter the source though ,let them crack on ,its their choice and i don't see a problem with them not doing something to suit someone else.There should be tolerance and respect both ways .
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Mate, if they simply didn't like gays this wouldn't have gotten to the supreme court. Religious interests were pretty important here.

Totally agree about their being tolerance and respect from both sides. I think both sides have been rank
 
The Muffin Man said:
Hope next time the bigoted twats order a Christmas cake somebody tells them to fuck off as they dont agree with their twisted beliefs.
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They refused to put a political slogan that they disagreed with on a cake. You're making them out be ogres for no other reason than you always go down the mad leftie route. You're like a stuck record mate give us all a break and shut the fuck up, eh?
 
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