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Blaming Ellis is a bit Mag-esque

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Brian Griffin said:
Proof of this...or did this make it's way through your tinfoil hat?



What did Ellis have to do with AJ like? :lol:

Two relegations is poor - but it's not like he didn't try/

We don't even register in the minds of most other football fans man.

I'll take the world class players, a cup final and 10 years top flight football and say thank you!
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Find your own proof.....It's not that hard to find out about his loan company, retc, with the internet!
 
Brian Griffin said:
He has invested.

We’ve had brilliant players.

We got to a cup final.

We had 10 years in the PL.

He didn’t leave quickly enough but to blame him solely is insane.

Blame Moyes, Grayson and Coleman.

Blame Byrne and Bain and DiFanti.

But don’t just blame the owner. He had the right intentions IMO.
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:lol: Don’t blame the owner just blame all of the people he employed
 
Mackem00 said:
I have. I just can't see where we still owe 26 million pounds to his loan company.
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60 million debt he said new owners needed to take on is a loan (not his own money) like the rest he said he was prepared to write off, there's a 34 million parachute payment coming next season, so do the math.

Dogbark said:
It's not his company. Also, I suggest you read the club statement again.
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The 60 million debt is a loan, the rest of the debt was his own money......I don't need to read the statement again!
 
Super Colin Todd said:
60 million debt he said new owners needed to take on is a loan (not his own money) like the rest he said he was prepared to write off, there's a 34 million parachute payment coming next season, so do the math.
The 60 million debt is a loan, the rest of the debt was his own money......I don't need to read the statement again!
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When did he say that? He said yesterday the club was literally debt free for the first time in many years.
 
Super Colin Todd said:
60 million debt he said new owners needed to take on is a loan (not his own money) like the rest he said he was prepared to write off, there's a 34 million parachute payment coming next season, so do the math.



The 60 million debt is a loan, the rest of the debt was his own money......I don't need to read the statement again!
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I think you do...
"...and I have paid off all debts owed by the club to leave it financially strong and debt free for the first time since years before I owned it.” :lol::oops:
 
Mackem00 said:
When did he say that? He said yesterday the club was literally debt free for the first time in many years.
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"The BBC’s Richard Conway:

“Short was asking up to £170m at one stage (as recently as 2016) when club in Premier League.

“Now prepared to take zero.

“Gross debt is £137m.

“He may be willing to forego his share (£69m) as part of any deal.

“Balance (of debt is) £68m owed to Security Bank Corporation.”

Dogbark said:
I think you do...
"...and I have paid off all debts owed by the club to leave it financially strong and debt free for the first time since years before I owned it.” :lol::oops:
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What about the 68 million owed to Security Bank Corporation? :oops::lol:
 
Super Colin Todd said:
"The BBC’s Richard Conway:

“Short was asking up to £170m at one stage (as recently as 2016) when club in Premier League.

“Now prepared to take zero.

“Gross debt is £137m.

“He may be willing to forego his share (£69m) as part of any deal.

“Balance (of debt is) £68m owed to Security Bank Corporation.”
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"The club is now debt free"

Ellis Short: Yesterday.
 
Brian Griffin said:
Proof of this...or did this make it's way through your tinfoil hat?



What did Ellis have to do with AJ like? :lol:

Two relegations is poor - but it's not like he didn't try/

We don't even register in the minds of most other football fans man.

I'll take the world class players, a cup final and 10 years top flight football and say thank you!
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Ellis Short ran the business which basically covered up for Adam Johnson hence why Maragret Byrne was kicked out with a nice pay off

"We don't even register in the minds of most other football fans man" - quick look on social media in recent weeks and this season in general, Sunderland have been the brunt of jokes from all over the country.

World class players?
 
GordonMuchallNo1Fan said:
Ellis Short ran the business which basically covered up for Adam Johnson hence why Maragret Byrne was kicked out with a nice pay off

"We don't even register in the minds of most other football fans man" - quick look on social media in recent weeks and this season in general, Sunderland have been the brunt of jokes from all over the country.

World class players?
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Firstly, regardless of whether or not you like, the club made a decision that AJ was innocent until proven guilty. He lied to them. Regardless of what 'evidence' they saw they were never going to fire him,

Secondly, that's what football is about - the same way Leeds have been laughed at, the Mag, Blackburn....etc etc

And world class players? Are you insane?

Bent
Gyan
AJ
Fletcher
Wellbeck
Rose
Alonso
Pickford
Henderson

Need I go on....
 
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