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Bid rejected for Clarke

Daniels said:
Harte sounds class as his agent. Saying how well
He is doing, offers are in for him but he is happy here.

Harte also looks after Huggins as well. Hope some of our youth use him as well. Not greedy over the top got the best interests in for his clients but not taking the piss.
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Good thing with Harte is he'll probably not be desperate for cash unlike some of the other greedy self serving agents through the years!
 

samaistonsrightfoot said:
Words are indeed cheap and in the wake of a report saying we have rejected 9 million his agent is doing an interview with the media saying everything has a price.

The article even specifies a figure SAFC will begin talks at.

I’m sure it’s just all a coincidence though that our most valuable player, with the most PL interest and subsequent derisory bid has been rejected, and his agent has just popped up to say if the price is right he would go.

Just reads as SAFC rejected a bid so up your offers and make sure you offer a good wage as that’s what it will take to shift him as he’s happy there. Look how many goals and assists he got in his first season. He’s worth it.
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I'm not laying into SA'srightfoot, but I do think he is a bit unduly suspicious. Clarke has had a great season and is probably one, if not, the top hotest player in the championship. Of course there will be interest in him. On top of that we know how the new business model works - we buy promising talent, build them up and sell them for a profit - there is nothing new emerged as a result of Harte's statement. It is absolutely common knowledge that every Sunderland player will have his price. The underlying i article does state a price of £15m but its not clear where that has come from or is just pure speculation on behalf of the article author. Its not in quotes so its not come in a direct quote from Harte. And if Harte was wanting Clarke to move on it seems a very strange tactic to speak to a national paper saying that he doesn't want his player to move. Why wouldn't he just pick up the phone and privately suggest to Palace that £15m might do it, why wouldn't he be privately or even publicly saying that the player is a little unsettled which might weaken Sunderland's resolve to keep him. As far as I can see the only bit of new info that Harte has put in the public domain is that he and his player are more than happy to stay at Sunderland. If he is using that to try and agitate for a move it seems a strange way of doing it.
 
CBeeeee said:
I'm not laying into SA'srightfoot, but I do think he is a bit unduly suspicious. Clarke has had a great season and is probably one, if not, the top hotest player in the championship. Of course there will be interest in him. On top of that we know how the new business model works - we buy promising talent, build them up and sell them for a profit - there is nothing new emerged as a result of Harte's statement. It is absolutely common knowledge that every Sunderland player will have his price. The underlying i article does state a price of £15m but its not clear where that has come from or is just pure speculation on behalf of the article author. Its not in quotes so its not come in a direct quote from Harte. And if Harte was wanting Clarke to move on it seems a very strange tactic to speak to a national paper saying that he doesn't want his player to move. Why wouldn't he just pick up the phone and privately suggest to Palace that £15m might do it, why wouldn't he be privately or even publicly saying that the player is a little unsettled which might weaken Sunderland's resolve to keep him. As far as I can see the only bit of new info that Harte has put in the public domain is that he and his player are more than happy to stay at Sunderland. If he is using that to try and agitate for a move it seems a strange way of doing it.
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Spot on mate,think SamA right foot has dreamt a one of our hierarchy stating we would sell for 15m.Did ask him the question but he has gone awol
 
i couldn't care less honestly. Good luck to the lad. if we get 30m and he plays at the top level after the graft and attitude he's shown then everyone is a winner. More money in the pot and we attract better kids. Some absolute melts on here who should remember how it was a few years ago when we'd haver been lucky to get £30m for the whole f***ing club
 
CBeeeee said:
I'm not laying into SA'srightfoot, but I do think he is a bit unduly suspicious. Clarke has had a great season and is probably one, if not, the top hotest player in the championship. Of course there will be interest in him. On top of that we know how the new business model works - we buy promising talent, build them up and sell them for a profit - there is nothing new emerged as a result of Harte's statement. It is absolutely common knowledge that every Sunderland player will have his price. The underlying i article does state a price of £15m but its not clear where that has come from or is just pure speculation on behalf of the article author. Its not in quotes so its not come in a direct quote from Harte. And if Harte was wanting Clarke to move on it seems a very strange tactic to speak to a national paper saying that he doesn't want his player to move. Why wouldn't he just pick up the phone and privately suggest to Palace that £15m might do it, why wouldn't he be privately or even publicly saying that the player is a little unsettled which might weaken Sunderland's resolve to keep him. As far as I can see the only bit of new info that Harte has put in the public domain is that he and his player are more than happy to stay at Sunderland. If he is using that to try and agitate for a move it seems a strange way of doing it.
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The 15 million would most likely have been given by Harte imo but asked not to be quoted on it. I doubt it’s actually the fee anyway but just gave a bit of an indication which is covered by the ‘will begin talks at’ opposed to saying it’s a selling price. It would reflect poorly on him to have it quoted and it would reflect poorly on Douglas if he’s just made that up from thin air then tried to attribute it to someone else by including it in the same article as a stitch up. Certainly wouldn’t expect him to do it if he wants to keep access to agents/players for interviews.

Then there’s the leak of a rejected bid last week. I’m not so sure SAFC would want that known and I don’t see how it benefits the bidder. Harte on the other hand…

I think people have took my post as suggesting Clarke wants to leave though opposed to an agent doing the job he’s paid to do. I’ve not said Clarke wants to leave. Just that an agent will want big offers in for him not just for the financials of the deal but for the prospective of other clients.

But just because an agent might want a deal it doesn’t mean the player does however certain packages will absolutely give him food for thought and it’s naive to think otherwise.
 
samaistonsrightfoot said:
The 15 million would most likely have been given by Harte imo but asked not to be quoted on it. I doubt it’s actually the fee anyway but just gave a bit of an indication which is covered by the ‘will begin talks at’ opposed to saying it’s a selling price. It would reflect poorly on him to have it quoted and it would reflect poorly on Douglas if he’s just made that up from thin air then tried to attribute it to someone else by including it in the same article as a stitch up. Certainly wouldn’t expect him to do it if he wants to keep access to agents/players for interviews.

Then there’s the leak of a rejected bid last week. I’m not so sure SAFC would want that known and I don’t see how it benefits the bidder. Harte on the other hand…

I think people have took my post as suggesting Clarke wants to leave though opposed to an agent doing the job he’s paid to do. I’ve not said Clarke wants to leave. Just that an agent will want big offers in for him not just for the financials of the deal but for the prospective of other clients.

But just because an agent might want a deal it doesn’t mean the player does however certain packages will absolutely give him food for thought and it’s naive to think otherwise.
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You really are one negative person, none of the drivel you have just typed relates to that article, but you carry on with your negativity
 
Wayne The Punk said:
You really are one negative person, none of the drivel you have just typed relates to that article, but you carry on with your negativity
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Not really sure how that is positive or negative. Agents making money off clients is a fact of life.

Enjoy your day, mate.
stevo said:
Spot on mate,think SamA right foot has dreamt a one of our hierarchy stating we would sell for 15m.Did ask him the question but he has gone awol
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Can you clarify where I’ve said our hierarchy have stated we would sell for 15 million?

Also, I don’t live on here, mate so apologies I’ve not responded to a random bloke on the internet fast enough for you.
 
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Harte may actually be an agent who wants what is best for his clients. Another season from Clarke like the last one, or even better .....than the fee is likely to be a lot more, or maybe promotion for us!
 
Mboma said:
I don't see Harte's comments as an agent trying to actively flog his player about. He made some good comments about the club and how happy Clarke is.

Seems a positive enough message to send out to the fans that Clarke isn't in any rush to leave.
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I don’t think he is either tbh. Got feeling is he will stay though I’m a bit worried about the Brentford interest as I think he would be a good fit for them. Don’t really see it with Palace though they do tend to go for younger English players of late so probably fits their profile.

However as it’s reported three clubs have made bids for Clarke (one we know has been rejected because that seems to have been leaked) his agent is telling the press he’s happy BUT if the price is right…

Ie show me the money. And when clubs are bidding for players I’d expect agents to be drumming up the price/package.

Genuinely got nee idea why it’s been so controversial.
 
Richie K said:
Harte may actually be an agent who wants what is best for his clients. Another season from Clarke like the last one, or even better .....than the fee is likely to be a lot more, or maybe promotion for us!
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Which would include an improved contract for the player . So it does no hark for Harte to make have it played out in public . And it doesn’t worry the club either because they brief all the time hence the original
Mowbray rumours
 
Dobblemackem said:
Hendo and Pickford were starting regular and were stand out players in the premier league.

A lot of people are really carried away with last year, probably because of the years in league one. But ultimately we finished 6th in a league we’ve pissed in the past.

Clarke was excellent and has a lot of potential, but he’s nowhere near the level of Pickford and Henderson yet. They’ve both also gone on to be in Englands first team, that’s how good they are. Again Clarke is a cracking little player, but I don’t think he’s quite that level.
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What relevance does that have to anything relating to Jack Clarke or our current side/set up?
 
Arfa Sleep said:
What relevance does that have to anything relating to Jack Clarke or our current side/set up?
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Because there’s a great deal of over playing our current team. Had we not spent the years we did in league one, I don’t believe we’d be doing this.

We are a good young side. Last season was brilliant, but some of the statements thrown out on here lately is madness.
 
samaistonsrightfoot said:
I don’t think he is either tbh. Got feeling is he will stay though I’m a bit worried about the Brentford interest as I think he would be a good fit for them. Don’t really see it with Palace though they do tend to go for younger English players of late so probably fits their profile.

However as it’s reported three clubs have made bids for Clarke (one we know has been rejected because that seems to have been leaked) his agent is telling the press he’s happy BUT if the price is right…

Ie show me the money. And when clubs are bidding for players I’d expect agents to be drumming up the price/package.

Genuinely got nee idea why it’s been so controversial.
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Most agents don't comment at all if there's interest. I think he's genuinely saying he's happy here, also the little comments about having Huggins, Sunderland and Harte living in the region himself, make me think he's happy where his lads are at the minute. Let's not forget that if Clarke has another good season being a key player here, his value will only get bigger.

The dig at spurs could also suggest that he thinks the grass isn't always greener.
 
chunksafc said:
Very positive comments from Harte, I especially like this part - “He’s had 11 goals and 13 assists. Stats don’t lie. It’s his first year playing in the Championship, he’s played in the majority of games and now it’s about building on that.”

Seems to have a very astute, sensible team around him
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Seems TM is key for several of the players as well -Amad mentioned him as one of the reasons he enjoyed it so much here ( I think )
He seems to let them “ flourish “.
 
we three kings said:
Seems TM is key for several of the players as well -Amad mentioned him as one of the reasons he enjoyed it so much here ( I think )
He seems to let them “ flourish “.
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Mowbray seems to have a lot more of a personality over the likes of Neil, who probably said very little to the players other than in training.

I can also see it as being a more relaxed atmosphere, with encouragment being a priority.
 
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