Hongkongphooey
Striker
some mental gymnastics going on here
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Being ran on a shoestring
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Whitburnmakem
Winger
The morale is your can’t always get what you want he’s here now so need to get behind what he’s trying to do and help have some influence !!
dangermows
Striker
"Hi, Sara here.... so you have set up a model that demands the customer use an emailing facility to order items when you already have data and info showing this is going to be a barrier?"
"That's correct"
"It appears the way you are using user research information to inform your business model is flawed, and for that reason im out"
Hongkongphooey
Striker
Absolute Tosh again, what the f*ck was he trying to do for the Derby against the Mags, apart from alienating the vast majority of supporters and making us a laughing stock across global media.
Inside Forward
Midfield
You must be f***ing blind then.
Whitburnmakem
Winger
How the fuck can he implement anything in that space of time man! he prob not seen half the fuckers play hence why Ekwah was playing so deep plus he’s trying to change habits
molthemackem
Striker
I posted before this window opened that come last night, we would all know exactly what the ambitions of the owners of our Club really are....
Over a year and no proven goal scorer, No central defensive midfield player.
The simple truth is the ownership group, KLD, Sartori ,Speakman, Davison etc are taking the piss out of the Clubs supporters. Since the summer, they have shown not one bit of ambition, quite the opposite in reality. They have, in the past, the ownership have been frugal of truth with the actual ownership and more recently with the FA cup tie and BCB fiasco and have deliberately mocked the fans. Their vision and promises, the pursuit of what frankly is becoming a major goal for the club, to be fully sustainable is just pie in the Sky..
The fact is not one club, without any form of real monetary investment across the entire "Football Pyramid", is a sustainable venture, not one. The indications were there for all to see at the end of this transfer window with a mere £89.9m being spent as opposed to previous years, last year being one of the highest ever £900m almost. Sunderland AFC are reported to have spent £2m and that on a winger. As supporters, It is no use us prattling on about the state of the ground or the lack of properly funded players. We all know the team has been crying out for over a year for a regular goalscorer (yes, they don't grow on trees) but in what seems a total lack of ambition by the recruitment team this has been ignored for the past three transfer windows. That ultimately stop at the top with KLD and the ownership group of the Club.
The fact we are chasing players who cost little ,hoping, they come good and the last three head coaches who cost even less should set the alarm bells ringing for every single supporter when viewed across the club. I really, really thought when KLD came on board and his then vision and his ambitions for Our Club that he gave to each and everyone of us were like a breath of fresh air. Unlike most previous owners, this particular fella was going to change all of that or so I thought..
As it is, now some 2 and a bit years down the road, its becoming clearer every day that he is no different to those who have gone before him. Those people who loved the limelight but were devoid of any real ambition in pushing our Club forward. Despite his seemingly apologetic manner on X for the recent BCB Debacle and his promise of a swift investigations into the BCB debacle and his determination in putting it right (were still waiting Louis) little has changed. Yes, the squad is younger, but seriously lacking in experience with areas that have required serious attention for going on 18 months left unaddressed. Unless things change dramatically and he does have time to turn things around, history, much like the BCB Debacle, will be found to be no better of a owner than some of those who have went before .
Out of all of this though, the ownership group does seem to be crystal clear on one thing...The continued lack of any real capital investment albeit over all aspects of the club. The shambolic retail side, Corporate (unless your a Mag) ,Ticketing where there is a real disconnect with supporters or even trying to contact the club when problems arrive, even the club staff know this and are embarrassed. I'm still waiting for a response from an email to the Club in offering to sort out damage to the BCB free of charge.
Harness that with what seems to be a total abrogation toward the maintenance of the SoL or the AoL and an ever tightening of the purse string would suggest that as no inward investment is forth coming. It is possible (I have my own reasons for thinking this) that the current ownership is ready to bail out ,maybe because they cant stand the justifiable criticism that they are under. It baffles me that even with so called Sunderland Supporters directly involved with the running of the Club and within the ownership hierarchy , how they have allowed this to happen is Shameful of a supporter.
Over a year and no proven goal scorer, No central defensive midfield player.
The simple truth is the ownership group, KLD, Sartori ,Speakman, Davison etc are taking the piss out of the Clubs supporters. Since the summer, they have shown not one bit of ambition, quite the opposite in reality. They have, in the past, the ownership have been frugal of truth with the actual ownership and more recently with the FA cup tie and BCB fiasco and have deliberately mocked the fans. Their vision and promises, the pursuit of what frankly is becoming a major goal for the club, to be fully sustainable is just pie in the Sky..
The fact is not one club, without any form of real monetary investment across the entire "Football Pyramid", is a sustainable venture, not one. The indications were there for all to see at the end of this transfer window with a mere £89.9m being spent as opposed to previous years, last year being one of the highest ever £900m almost. Sunderland AFC are reported to have spent £2m and that on a winger. As supporters, It is no use us prattling on about the state of the ground or the lack of properly funded players. We all know the team has been crying out for over a year for a regular goalscorer (yes, they don't grow on trees) but in what seems a total lack of ambition by the recruitment team this has been ignored for the past three transfer windows. That ultimately stop at the top with KLD and the ownership group of the Club.
The fact we are chasing players who cost little ,hoping, they come good and the last three head coaches who cost even less should set the alarm bells ringing for every single supporter when viewed across the club. I really, really thought when KLD came on board and his then vision and his ambitions for Our Club that he gave to each and everyone of us were like a breath of fresh air. Unlike most previous owners, this particular fella was going to change all of that or so I thought..
As it is, now some 2 and a bit years down the road, its becoming clearer every day that he is no different to those who have gone before him. Those people who loved the limelight but were devoid of any real ambition in pushing our Club forward. Despite his seemingly apologetic manner on X for the recent BCB Debacle and his promise of a swift investigations into the BCB debacle and his determination in putting it right (were still waiting Louis) little has changed. Yes, the squad is younger, but seriously lacking in experience with areas that have required serious attention for going on 18 months left unaddressed. Unless things change dramatically and he does have time to turn things around, history, much like the BCB Debacle, will be found to be no better of a owner than some of those who have went before .
Out of all of this though, the ownership group does seem to be crystal clear on one thing...The continued lack of any real capital investment albeit over all aspects of the club. The shambolic retail side, Corporate (unless your a Mag) ,Ticketing where there is a real disconnect with supporters or even trying to contact the club when problems arrive, even the club staff know this and are embarrassed. I'm still waiting for a response from an email to the Club in offering to sort out damage to the BCB free of charge.
Harness that with what seems to be a total abrogation toward the maintenance of the SoL or the AoL and an ever tightening of the purse string would suggest that as no inward investment is forth coming. It is possible (I have my own reasons for thinking this) that the current ownership is ready to bail out ,maybe because they cant stand the justifiable criticism that they are under. It baffles me that even with so called Sunderland Supporters directly involved with the running of the Club and within the ownership hierarchy , how they have allowed this to happen is Shameful of a supporter.
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Whitburnmakem
Winger
We have set up a model that avoids waste product and maximises profit Sarah a recent fans meeting suggested we need to be more profitable commercially and last year we binned 12000 tops as people bought theirs off dh gate soething we couldn’t foresee
molthemackem
Striker
That was because the Retail method of sale and the system were more often closed or not available due to staffing ...Now that is a fact and is minuted .
Whitburnmakem
Winger
So do you ever speak about football ? Or just moan about commercial things every time I see you pop up on a thread it’s juts slating the clubYou don't half spout some unadulterated rubbish, I was talking about the owner and the way he shit on our fans,you utter buffoon
RichD
Striker
So he mustn't have asked his back room staff what position they play or watched video's
Spot on mate...
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dangermows
Striker
"Touka here..... you've said stock has sold out. Yes. And you've decided not to replace it and and are therefore throwing away potential profits. Crazy. You mention 12k going to waste. Okay. But that figure isn't really relevant ti now but you at least have the forsight now. What you do is simple. You look at the last stock size that sold out and how quickly that took to sell and forecast going forward accordingly. What you dont do, in response to stakeholder feedback wanting profits, is refuse to restock a product that has sold out. Given you have zero business credentials I have no confidence in you and your approach making any sort of profit. Therefore Im out"
Whitburnmakem
Winger
We do restock sensible levels touka it wouldn’t be a wise move to fully stock the shop at this stage of the season with 6 games of the season remaining , if I can just check your full name and I’ll ring you when we have a delivery , so I’ve got touka Karen and what’s your surname
Barney73
Central Defender
I’m as annoyed as the next bloke that we don’t seem to have any real Desire to get promoted!
However…. If this model thing is gonna work it needs big sales and reinvestments.
The summer will bring one or two of these big sales, around the 20million mark, then we’ll really see (I’m aware we’ve sold Stewart and lihadji)
However…. If this model thing is gonna work it needs big sales and reinvestments.
The summer will bring one or two of these big sales, around the 20million mark, then we’ll really see (I’m aware we’ve sold Stewart and lihadji)
dangermows
Striker
"No one has said to fully stock the shop have they? Unless your data suggests you should? It seems youve done the opposite though and not stocked at all.
Are you saying this amateurish approach has only happened in the last week or so due to the dwindling number of games? Also I like my football and don't think there is only six games to go. I suggest you look into your numbers. I'd also like to point out customers buy football shirts even when there isn't a game on, often choosing to buy a shirt on a day there is no game, midweek for example, so when there is a game they can go to it in their newly acquired football shirt.
I won't be giving out my name and phone number as you will probably sign me up to another of those ponzi schemes.
As I said, I'm out"
Bukowski73
Subs Bench
They've put the settings on portrait instead of rotate . The daft twats
oddbod
Winger
is that photoshopped? where is it in the ground ? is it still like that?sad sad days
dangermows
Striker
is that photoshopped? where is it in the ground ? is it still like that?sad sad days
Was the Mags game so Dan Burn could fit on the screen.
GiantHogweed
Striker
It's not bizarre at all.
We are willing to spend modest sums on cheap players.
Good strikers do not come cheap, hence, why we don't have any.
Lionel Hutzz
Winger
We’ve just spent a combined 4m on a defender and another attacking midfielder. Realistically that is the highest fee we could afford for a player so could have signed a striker
