I agree. But I can’t think of a board that doesn’t prioritise white ball massively. I wonder when Kohli last played a domestic red ball game for example
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Mr Redknapp
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They are not prioritising their white-ball game to the detriment of the red ball though. Look at New Zealand a nation of only a few million and they continue to produce world-class test cricketers and perform in the short form of the game. England structure their summers around the white ball and only play first-class matches at the start and arse end of the season
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GordonMuchallNo1Fan
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Don't disagree I just think we've gone too extreme. Always a fine balance and we've just gone obsessive with the slog fest which we failed to win last month. What's even more bizarre is we are 50 over world champions and have now thrown the 50 over game on the scrap heap at county level.
Boo
Striker
I take your point. I guess we're stuck with Burns, but I would have Bairstow over Pope.
rentaghost
Striker
The problem is there's no right answer. In the last 3 and half years since the summer of 2018 JB has had 40 innings at an average of 21 with only one hundred and loads of ducks and single figure scores. Bairstow, Pope, Crawley, Burns in fact almost everyone bar Root have done nowt to deserve selection but on balance for now i would stick with Pope the younger underachieving talented option.
Boo
Striker
It's definitely a case of 'you pays your money ...' In any event, you will probably get your wish on Thursday, because they're unlikely to change the batters. Of course, I will hope that Pope goes on to make a double century.
Voice of fair play
Striker
We just go round in circles with people saying this and that person needs to be dropped.
I said when Sibley and Crawley were selected they were not better than what we had and that was proved right.
We particularly knackered with the openers like, because as much as I have heard Burns slagged of from all quarters on this board over the last few days.
The fact remains he is probably one of the best openers available for selection.
In fact you could make a valid argument he is the best!
That’s how poor the options are!
Throwing a untested test opener against these would not work imo.
If we do drop Burns, Crawley should play as Aussie wickets could suit him.
At even that a massive risk
But barring him no other opener anywhere near good enough to be thrown in against they attack
I said when Sibley and Crawley were selected they were not better than what we had and that was proved right.
We particularly knackered with the openers like, because as much as I have heard Burns slagged of from all quarters on this board over the last few days.
The fact remains he is probably one of the best openers available for selection.
In fact you could make a valid argument he is the best!
That’s how poor the options are!
Throwing a untested test opener against these would not work imo.
If we do drop Burns, Crawley should play as Aussie wickets could suit him.
At even that a massive risk
But barring him no other opener anywhere near good enough to be thrown in against they attack
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Anderson for Leach.
Would be reticent about picking Broad over anyone else as the seamers looked good, there’s been a six day rest after the Aussie first innings and all of the present incumbents are better bats than him.
Would be reticent about picking Broad over anyone else as the seamers looked good, there’s been a six day rest after the Aussie first innings and all of the present incumbents are better bats than him.
I thought Woakes looked dreadful personally
rentaghost
Striker
True but his natural length should be good for the pink ball test.
True enough
SuperMarcoRowell
Central Defender
I like Broad against the Aussies...they don’t like him and he’s always up for the fight. Before the game I really wanted to play Leach, the only reason not to, I said, was if it were a green top. Well low and behold the greenest Gabba pitch ever! So I’d have played him instead of Leach. That being said if the batsmen can’t get a decent total on the board you’re always gonna struggle.
wednesday1957
Midfield
Couldn't understand the omission of Broad, unless he's not performing in the nets or something.
He has the sign over Warner &co, conditions looked just right.
Its all hindsight I know, you hear the experts say ... "win the toss, look down look up ....then bat"
Its was all too familiar, tune into TMS half an hour in..4 wickets down.
Burns to me simply looks so awkward, Hameed looked steady, Root once again, in so early he may as well open
Hoping the 2 Day/Nighters level it up a bit ...But
Ive no confidence in several of our top order
He has the sign over Warner &co, conditions looked just right.
Its all hindsight I know, you hear the experts say ... "win the toss, look down look up ....then bat"
Its was all too familiar, tune into TMS half an hour in..4 wickets down.
Burns to me simply looks so awkward, Hameed looked steady, Root once again, in so early he may as well open
Hoping the 2 Day/Nighters level it up a bit ...But
Ive no confidence in several of our top order
smoker
Striker
Broad says he was fit to play it was between him and Jack Leach.
www.dailymail.co.uk
As somebody sitting thousands of miles away with no knowledge of the conditions I probably would have picked Leach TBF. Can I be England coach?
STUART BROAD: Disappointed? Yes. I could have made an impact
STUART BROAD: Jimmy Anderson and I tried to stay fit as could be in the Covid climate, ready to go for all five Tests in Australia. I think we ticked that box. Now we can't dwell on that.
As somebody sitting thousands of miles away with no knowledge of the conditions I probably would have picked Leach TBF. Can I be England coach?
HarrogateMackem
Striker
Broad says he was fit to play it was between him and Jack Leach.
STUART BROAD: Disappointed? Yes. I could have made an impact
STUART BROAD: Jimmy Anderson and I tried to stay fit as could be in the Covid climate, ready to go for all five Tests in Australia. I think we ticked that box. Now we can't dwell on that.
As somebody sitting thousands of miles away with no knowledge of the conditions I probably would have picked Leach TBF. Can I be England coach?
He's proper unprofessional isn't he. Every time he's not playing he's whining to the press trying to put pressure on the selectors. It's called resting Stuart, but maybe if you didn't have a bowling average of 37 in Australia then you'd be more likely to be picked. I'd much rather of had a spinner out there, even if hindsight says differently, and i'd still argue that if we go five quicks for the rest of the series we'll be hammered.
Tonton Zola Moukoko
Midfield
Why Root is 1,000 times better than the next England batter - Andy Zaltzman
Comedian and Test Match Special statistician Andy Zaltzman looks at some of the weird and wonderful stats emerging from the Ashes.
www.bbc.co.uk
Some astonishingly shit stats in there.
chopsfc007
Striker
Better record than woakes
mackembhoy
Striker
Aye think that's pathetic from him.
Way to show the team is fractured already. Undermining the coach and captains decision.
Irrelevant Broad wasn't picked.
Deal with it like a professional.
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smoker
Striker
Best average of all England bowlers in the squad at the Gabba (24.58).
Didn't realise he was as high as 37 across all Australia but that's fairly similar to Anderson, Stokes and Overton (better than Woakes as chops says).
