1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

attention SMOKERS and VAPERS

Discussion in 'SMB' started by aukq, Apr 20, 2017.

  1. nyron4england

    nyron4england Winger

    enjoy a smoke. prepared to pay for it. don't like it, don't do it. not hard.
     
  2. samsafc

    samsafc Midfield

    Exactly, people are free to make their own choices. The only argument I agree with for banning tobacco is to ease the financial burden on the NHS. All tax from tobacco products should go straight to the NHS imo.

    That's stupid, I hate the taste of lager the first time I had it, I like it now. Doesn't mean I'm addicted to lager
     
  3. JonMc

    JonMc Striker

    No. You got used to it. Your body did not react violently after one taste to the point where it wanted to wretch to reject the toxins....you just said urrgghh ijn the same way that you might say urrgghh at the taste of marmite - which is good for you - you just didn't like the taste.. But that is another one of my gripes. Bubblegum alcohol - should be illegal. It's a drink for grown ups not for kiddies. If you want strawberry etc...drink pop.

    Like it or not that is the way tobacco works. It fools your body into thing that a poison is pleasure.
     
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2017
  4. Pop

    Pop Striker

    Smokers are net contributors to the exchequer, not their fault the tax is funneled elsewhere.

    My body reacted violently the first time I drank whisky.
     
  5. ajthemackem

    ajthemackem Striker

    I enjoy a smoke myself, but I've been packed in for the past 8 weeks. Still dream of them. :lol:

    And this.
     
  6. JonMc

    JonMc Striker

    40% ethanol v 4%. Hardlys surprising.
     
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2017
  7. Pop

    Pop Striker

    It doesn't now, am I addicted?
     
  8. JonMc

    JonMc Striker

    No. But alcohol doesn't act on your body in the same way that tobacco does...no matter how much you want it to be so.

    Look. I was stupid enough to become a tobacco addict at a young age and that was in spite of all the evidence available to me even back in the 70s. In spite of the tobacco companies making it out like it wasn't so bad. It serves no purpose other than getting kids addicted - if you don't smoke at age 20 you probably aren't thick enough to become a smoker. That's why smoking adds ooze cool...it fools stupid kids, not adults.

    It should be a thing of the past...but it isn't. If anyone wants to be thick like me then go ahead. Free country so far.
     
  9. yamar1

    yamar1 Winger

    I take it your not keen on him.
     
  10. aukq

    aukq Midfield

    the gateway argument. there's no solid evidance to suggest that harmless vaping would lead to comsumers choosing to then kill themselves by actual smoking.
     
  11. JonMc

    JonMc Striker

    Good. Support the lunatic idea of getting kids to use vaping/e-cigs when they don't even smoke in the first place. Just cos it looks cool. Sounds like a first rate idea to me.
     
  12. aukq

    aukq Midfield

    i support people choosing vape over smoke, with the correct information before making those choices.

    if a kid is going to smoke, if they vape instead that could and probably would save their life.
     
    Billy ballbag likes this.
  13. MunkyHeed

    MunkyHeed Winger

    Spot whose given up smoking recently. :neutral:
     
    aukq likes this.
  14. JonMc

    JonMc Striker

    I would support those people too by outlawing tobacco use - starting now, for every child starting school this year. By telling them that when they reach 18yrs of age tobacco will be denied to them and every child born after them. Send the message to everyone in this country that tobacco and e-cig use in GB will soon start to become a thing of the past.

    If you support the choice to smoke or not it is that choice which will cost lives - and more than probably. Definitely. My way will save lives and I reckon it will also start a global domino effect with other countries making this sensible decision. Even Putin is talking about this at the moment. It will happen eventually - we could be pioneers instead of being dragged into line later on.
     
  15. Dave Herbal

    Dave Herbal Striker

    Apart from the small matter of it being enjoyable and relaxing.
     
    Morse likes this.
  16. JonMc

    JonMc Striker

    You're kidding right? I've already covered the 'enjoyment' factor.
    Increased heart rate - hardening of arteries - heart less efficient and working harder - raised blood pressure and increased risk of strokes. That's really relaxing that is.
     
  17. cmmackem

    cmmackem Full Back

    I was a smoker for half of my life started at age 15. I stopped smoking at age 21 due to my grappling where I won my the provincial championship in my weight class. Started again at age 23.

    At age 31 I started vaping and have never looked back. Tried one cigarette after and it was not as satisfying.

    The downside to vaping is the cost. I spend approximately $300 - $700 on vaping per month but worth every penny.
     
  18. aukq

    aukq Midfield

    I'm not sure exactly what you've heard Putin say, but the Russain government run their own big tobacco industry. The same thing is happening in another 12 countries or so right now.

    That's not to mention the huge big tobacco companies operating independantly around the world which pay billions in various subsidies to governments.

    Smoking is here to stay. There is no debate on choice/prohibition. It does not exist. Higher taxation, no branding, no advertising. It's going nowhere because the people making the money are firmly in control.

    Now we have established no one can simply outlaw tobacco, without somehow managing to take on and defeat the global interest behind it. A safer option, CHOICE, surely has to be supported by any level headed person, without a vested interest in making profit from the sale of tobacco, or the salary of a lobbyist against Vaping.

    I don't want to sound patronising but its the nicotine addiction that tells you this.

    there is a whole host of various different chemicals in a cigarette which accelerate the nicotine and make it more potent.

    why not just Vape instead?
     
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2017
  19. GK

    GK Striker

    Adding vaping?

    I think you shoukd do a bit research on this one ..

    I think you should do a bit reading on this as well mind...

    What on earth are you on about

    This is another of those threads where people get angry without having the slightest clue what they're on about.
     
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2017
    Gucci Massive likes this.
  20. Until they discover it isn't.
     

Share This Page