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Are Forest a big club


WHD said:
There's no way Sunderland and Newcastle share Northumberland, it's vast majority mag.
Co Durham is shared unfortunately, as Newcastle is much easier to get to and actually nearer for many of its areas.
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I was saying in general there is around 2mill people shared between the two clubs, Sunderland get a few from Northumberland and Teesside, share Durham and Gateshead, South Shields. Dominate Sunderland. There is enough people in them there parts to draw good crowds. Mom
 
The Black Sock said:
Definitely a big club but not a giant club. Clough put them on the map but before and after achieved relatively little. I used to work with a fella from Nottingham who always said historically County were the city’s first club
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Well before Clough 1967 runner up to Man Utd and FA Cup semi finalists. FA Cup winner in 1959. They have spent probably the same time as us outside top two divisions. Judging from their current crowds I think they would fill a 40,000 capacity ground.
exwazee said:
I define a club size by its support. Forest get an average gate of 30k, thats a big club. A premier league club.
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I think almost half the 92 clubs in the Four Divisions would average around 30000 in the PL today.
If they had the capacity.
 
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The whole who are the big clubs and who isn’t debate is subjective anyway. Someone’s criteria for a big club might be totally different to another person’s.
 
oriss said:
I was saying in general there is around 2mill people shared between the two clubs, Sunderland get a few from Northumberland and Teesside, share Durham and Gateshead, South Shields. Dominate Sunderland. There is enough people in them there parts to draw good crowds. Mom
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Our catchment area is about a third, if not smaller, than Newcastle's. The "2 million" population isn't shared equally. The fact we get close to the same crowds as Newcastle is an achievement in itself, and imo, shows a much higher percentage of our catchment area actually attend games.
 
Peace said:
You are deluded if you think SAFC have a big catchment area. You literally have Newcastle United on your doorstep and people in and around Sunderland support the toon.
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Just shown yourself to be a mag.

Also you quoted boro mentioning Leeds yet mentioned Sunderland,

Sunderland get fans from Northumberland,Durham, Washington, North Yorkshire, Teesside.


Leeds have over 500k population and scrap fans from all over Yorkshire yet still can’t sell out. Your championship seasons averaged 25+ k.

Sunderland will match you on home and away crowds
 
mackem1989 said:
Just shown yourself to be a mag.

Also you quoted boro mentioning Leeds yet mentioned Sunderland,

Sunderland get fans from Northumberland,Durham, Washington, North Yorkshire, Teesside.


Leeds have over 500k population and scrap fans from all over Yorkshire yet still can’t sell out. Your championship seasons averaged 25+ k.

Sunderland will match you on home and away crowds
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Carling cup
Sunderland v crewe 8 Aug 2023 — Attendance: 10, 763

Carling cup Leeds v Shrewsbury 9 Aug 2023 Attendance: 35,129

:rolleyes:
 
Houghtoner said:
Historic club but giants? That Clough period was just a total one off. It’s still unbelievable now so I can’t imagine what it was like at the time.
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Well I was handed down about 20 Forest programmes from the sixties and I gave them to a Forest supporter here in NZ, paid for the gesture, no thanks, in return...the first time I made the offer they didn't want them...not same level if your rivals are County or other midlands if similar passion and clackers
 
Peace said:
Carling cup
Sunderland v crewe 8 Aug 2023 — Attendance: 10, 763

Carling cup Leeds v Shrewsbury 9 Aug 2023 Attendance: 35,129

:rolleyes:
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Leeds highest league one average 26,546
Sunderland highest league one average 32,157

You go off one game didn’t you once get 8500 against Blackburn in the same cup ?

Actually

Only 8,488 supporters were in attendance to watch a largely dour match between two sides

This was the third round. We can all pluck stats and attendances out.

Can you explain why you got 8k vs Blackburn in the third round of the same competition?
 
mackem1989 said:
Leeds highest league one average 26,546
Sunderland highest league one average 32,157

You go off one game didn’t you once get 8500 against Blackburn in the same cup ?

Actually

Only 8,488 supporters were in attendance to watch a largely dour match between two sides

This was the third round. We can all pluck stats and attendances out.

Can you explain why you got 8k vs Blackburn in the third round of the same competition?
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Why can't you explain why you got 25,000 less than Leeds in a competition at the same stage?
 
Peace said:
Why can't you explain why you got 25,000 less than Leeds in a competition at the same stage?
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I directly asked you first, so explain to me the 8500 and the lower league one crowded despite having a bigger catchment area and a larger general city population.

Then il answer your question.
 
Peace said:
Why can't you explain why you got 25,000 less than Leeds in a competition at the same stage?
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Why don't you explain why you got less fans at the home game Vs WBA than against Shrewsbury??

Maybe your fans thought you'd have a good run in the non existent Carling Cup? 🤣🤣🤣
 
Peace said:
Why can't you explain why you got 25,000 less than Leeds in a competition at the same stage?
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Sunderland is a post industrial wasteland that has seen very little investment from successive governments. Leeds has had money thrown at it. There’s only so much money that the majority of our fans can justify spending on football as I’d hazard a guess we have a lot more fans who live on the breadline. An extra £30 on top of a season ticket payment isn’t as easy to justify when it’s an early round cup game against the mighty Crewe as we languished in the football doldrums (still getting 30-35k fans for league games).
 
Peace said:
Explain why you got 10k v crewe and Leeds got 35k v Shrewsbury in the same competition. Leeds prices were cheaper too.
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Folks dont seem to care about the League Cup, it was the same in 2014 when we reached the final. The QF against Chelsea the gate was 21k. Average gate for league matches was 41k that season. Its a midweek reserve cup in practice. The FA Cup however they interrupt the league for the rounds.
 
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