Anti mask demonstrations - Trafalgar Square

[North Yorks Mackem]

I'm afraid you'll just have to keep watching...next few months and you might start to wake up.


Not every f***ing night man Jesus , all I posted was a mainstream media lass breaking ranks....that should at least tell you something.

So you cant tell me. It is genuinely concerning how people like yourself have managed to develop such a warped view of the world.

You've become so paranoid of the normal world that you've started developing theories that should probably be saved for when you're growing up at school.

Its not normal mate, and ultimately will be very dangerous. Bit of a shame tbh.

 

[SAFCOldie]

I voted for Labour. Not because I liked Jezza but because the alternative was Boris. Look at the shit show Boris has caused man. The bloke is a bigger clown than you and that is massive achievement.

Saying you voted Tory for Brexit doesn't excuse the fact you voted for this shit show. Man up and accept that you voted for the current situation.

What did you vote for on this thread:-

Gauging the concensus - 'Crack on' vs Lockdown

Seems sensible to me but the economy seems to be the priority above all else. I'm no bean counter, but they'd have to find a way to support those industries.

www.readytogo.net

If you voted for anything below option 2 then you are backing this situation and more importantly the absolute carnage yet to occur.

 

[Ciro_DiMarzio]

What did you vote for on this thread:-

Gauging the concensus - 'Crack on' vs Lockdown

Seems sensible to me but the economy seems to be the priority above all else. I'm no bean counter, but they'd have to find a way to support those industries.

www.readytogo.net

If you voted for anything below option 2 then you are backing this situation and more importantly the absolute carnage yet to occur.

I didn't vote because none of the option fit where I am at with it. I've said as much in a post on the thread.

I was happy with how things were before the local lockdown. I don't agree with the local lockdown rules. Pubs not playing the game should be shut down imo but other than that I think it should have been left as it was.

 

[SAFCOldie]

So you cant tell me. It is genuinely concerning how people like yourself have managed to develop such a warped view of the world.

You've become so paranoid of the normal world that you've started developing theories that should probably be saved for when you're growing up at school.

Its not normal mate, and ultimately will be very dangerous. Bit of a shame tbh.

You might have had a point aside from the fact millions of others are also questioning this palava.

 

[Deleted member 43869]

Bloody hell. Hated by the left AND the right. Not much fun being Jewish

@muggboots curious why you liked this post. Do you agree?

I wouldn't normally ask such an odd question but considering our 'conversation' yesterday it would be interesting for you to elaborate?

 

[muggboots]

Bloody hell. Hated by the left AND the right. Not much fun being Jewish

That's always been the case though, for hundreds of years. When you need someone to blame, blame the Jews. This time though, it seems that the people who really have issues with them are accusing everyone else of antisemitism to deflect inquiries into their own views. It'll all come out in the wash, the problem is that that could be decades in the future.

 

[Deleted member 43869]

That's always been the case though, for hundreds of years. When you need someone to blame, blame the Jews. This time though, it seems that the people who really have issues with them are accusing everyone else of antisemitism to deflect inquiries into their own views. It'll all come out in the wash, the problem is that that could be decades in the future.

You can untangle anti semitism from the criticism of Israel and you're still left with significant pockets of anti semitism within the so called 'far left' of labour circles. It's almost a pre requisite of socialist culture. As for the far right, it doesn't need any clarification. You might deny it currently exists in circles such as 'Momentum' but the evidence is there. Sure, it might be over stated amidst the muddying of anti Israel / anti semitism but its there for sure.

 

[muggboots]

@muggboots curious why you liked this post. Do you agree?

I wouldn't normally ask such an odd question but considering our 'conversation' yesterday it would be interesting for you to elaborate?

I knew you'd think it was odd. I'll agree with you when I think you have a point about something. The recent polarisation of almost every discussion is one of the biggest problems in society at the minute. Not every situation is 'black or white', the massive grey bit inbetween is where most of the answers will be found. The current use of divide and conquer tactics by some powerful actors is working a f***ing treat for them at the minute as when we fight amongst ourselves they can get away with whatever they want. However, if you were on PF and said Altidore should never have been swapped for Defoe I'd tear you a new one. That doesn't mean we can't agree on a music thread.

 

[Deleted member 43869]

I knew you'd think it was odd. I'll agree with you when I think you have a point about something. The recent polarisation of almost every discussion is one of the biggest problems in society at the minute. Not every situation is 'black or white', the massive grey bit inbetween is where most of the answers will be found. The current use of divide and conquer tactics by some powerful actors is working a f***ing treat for them at the minute as when we fight amongst ourselves they can get away with whatever they want. However, if you were on PF and said Altidore should never have been swapped for Defoe I'd tear you a new one. That doesn't mean we can't agree on a music thread.

Yeah I agree. You're not pissing me off nearly as much as you did yesterday

 

[muggboots]

You can untangle anti semitism from the criticism of Israel and you're still left with significant pockets of anti semitism within the so called 'far left' of labour circles. It's almost a pre requisite of socialist culture. As for the far right, it doesn't need any clarification. You might deny it currently exists in circles such as 'Momentum' but the evidence is there. Sure, it might be over stated amidst the muddying of anti Israel / anti semitism but its there for sure.

The intentional blending of criticism of the actions of the state of Israel and the wider Jewish people as a whole is a tactic designed to shut down discussion and/or be used as a stick to beat people with. Part of this whole Worldwide mass misinformation campaign, to muddy the waters of honest news reporting and instigate disorder variously around the World. It's a new kind of warfare that currently can't be stopped conventionally.
I don't have an answer for it, that's just the way I see it. It's dangerous and quite unsettling to be honest.

Yeah I agree. You're not pissing me off nearly as much as you did yesterday

See, a good old fashioned conversation can work wonders. There is far too little of that going on currently around the World and the main reason for that is driven by shadily funded multimedia manipulation from obscure forces. The mass take up of batshit conspiracy theories is one tool they use and a big factor in this. Confusion and chaos gives them opportunities to get away with all sorts of devious shit in the shadows. Don't fall for the stuff they drip feed to the masses, that's what they want you to do.

I love when they say it's 'all to control', control what exactly? What are they controlling now, the destruction of the economy just so they can make us wear masks?

Control and surveillance?
They seem to gloss over the billions spent by governments around the World on facial recognition camera systems that are immediately rendered completely unusable by someone simply wearing a 99p mask. It will actually be paralysing their shadier techniques.

 

[Deleted member 43869]

The intentional blending of criticism of the actions of the state of Israel and the wider Jewish people as a whole is a tactic designed to shut down discussion and/or be used as a stick to beat people with. Part of this whole Worldwide mass misinformation campaign, to muddy the waters of honest news reporting and instigate disorder variously around the World. It's a new kind of warfare that currently can't be stopped conventionally.
I don't have an answer for it, that's just the way I see it. It's dangerous and quite unsettling to be honest.


See, a good old fashioned conversation can work wonders. There is far too little of that going on currently around the World and the main reason for that is driven by shadily funded multimedia manipulation from obscure forces. The mass take up of batshit conspiracy theories is one tool they use and a big factor in this. Confusion and chaos gives them opportunities to get away with all sorts of devious shit in the shadows. Don't fall for the stuff they drip feed to the masses, that's what they want you to do.
Control and surveillance?
They seem to gloss over the billions spent by governments around the World on facial recognition camera systems that are immediately rendered completely unusable by someone simply wearing a 99p mask. It will actually be paralysing their shadier techniques.

Just to be clear I don't subscribe to the conspiracy theories you're probably alluding to. The whole covid thing has basically polarised those who have cause to fear it and those who don't but have suffered adversely as a result of restrictions. For me it's another polarising force. I pray we get a reliable vaccine. You're right though whether it's Brexit, BLM, covid, even f***ing VAR every single story is based around a rhetoric that gets people at each others throats. Someone somewhere benefits from that.

 

[muggboots]

Just to be clear I don't subscribe to the conspiracy theories you're probably alluding to. The whole covid thing has basically polarised those who have cause to fear it and those who don't but have suffered adversely as a result of restrictions. For me it's another polarising force. I pray we get a reliable vaccine. You're right though whether it's Brexit, BLM, covid, even f***ing VAR every single story is based around a rhetoric that gets people at each others throats. Someone somewhere benefits from that.

Follow the money, or in the case of state actors identify the main beneficiary of any turn of events. The conspiracy theorists, the far right organisations and many members of the general public are being utilised as 'useful idiots' in all this. The problem with that is the law of unintended consequences. The genie can be a really awkward bastard to shove back in the lamp. Luckily, that's never caused any problems in the past has it?

 

[SAFCOldie]

 

[Ciro_DiMarzio]

10 cans in?

 

[SAFCOldie]

10 cans in?

No just find it funny that Muggy is getting a little conspiratorial.

 

[Hep]

It's common knowledge

It's not common knowledge at all. If someone has told you, that's rumour, not common knowledge.

Post a link to a reputable source, or been seen to be spouting crap.

You might have had a point aside from the fact millions of others are also questioning this palava.

Millions of others think this is caused by Bill Gates and 5G.

Half the population of the country have below-average intelligence, a lot of people believing something doesn't make it true. Fact-based, scientifically verified and indecently reviewed evidence makes the truth.

It's simple scenario, is she correct or incorrect ?

She's wrong - what she is saying is that we must let people die so we can keep coffee shops open???

The economy is important, but not as important as people's families.

 

[SAFCOldie]

It's not common knowledge at all. If someone has told you, that's rumour, not common knowledge.

Post a link to a reputable source, or been seen to be spouting crap.

Your Coronavirus Test Is Positive. Maybe It Shouldn’t Be.

The usual diagnostic tests may simply be too sensitive and too slow to contain the spread of the virus.

www.nytimes.com

Post a link to a reputable source, or been seen to be spouting crap.

Your beloved BBC just today:-

"In particular, he's concerned the Covid test is actually so sensitive it's picking up what is effectively dead virus as it spots traces of it months after the person has stopped being infectious. "

Covid: Is it time we learned to live with the virus?

Infections are rising and new restrictions being introduced. But is that the right thing to do?

www.bbc.co.uk

Total farce.

 

[Shangri-La]

It's not common knowledge at all. If someone has told you, that's rumour, not common knowledge.

Post a link to a reputable source, or been seen to be spouting crap.

Millions of others think this is caused by Bill Gates and 5G.

Half the population of the country have below-average intelligence, a lot of people believing something doesn't make it true. Fact-based, scientifically verified and indecently reviewed evidence makes the truth.


She's wrong - what she is saying is that we must let people die so we can keep coffee shops open???

The economy is important, but not as important as people's families.

How many Covid diagnoses are false positives? | The Spectator

Like one of Oxford's top epidemiologists?, I suppose he has below average intelligence too does he?

 

[Hep]

Your Coronavirus Test Is Positive. Maybe It Shouldn’t Be.

The usual diagnostic tests may simply be too sensitive and too slow to contain the spread of the virus.

www.nytimes.com

Your beloved BBC just today:-

"In particular, he's concerned the Covid test is actually so sensitive it's picking up what is effectively dead virus as it spots traces of it months after the person has stopped being infectious. "

Covid: Is it time we learned to live with the virus?

Infections are rising and new restrictions being introduced. But is that the right thing to do?

www.bbc.co.uk

Total farce.

False positives are less than 1%

 

[SAFCOldie]

False positives are less than 1%

Sorry what, the threshold is too high is the obvious conclusion, that in itself would not be too bad if employment, business and education weren't at stake. It's an utter farce.