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English as opposed to foreign coaches. He's complained about it numerous times and even since he's been here he's made some quasi-xenophobic comments about both Benitez (fair enough, we're in a relegation scrap with them) and Klopp. He also had a moan when Monk was sacked by Swansea.....but has said nowt about the foreign coach who has them safe with a few games to spare when they looked doomed under Monk.

He's always citing "evidence" and how it's "proven" that their methods don't work. I'd say the fact Wilko was the last English manager to win the PL, barely any English managers have won major trophies in the last 20 years and the English national team's most successful coach in that time was from Sweden is pretty conclusive evidence that they are simply are not as good as their foreign counter parts. He seems unwilling to listen to this evidence though and it's all some outrageous plot to keep the English coaches down.

Does he honestly expect us to believe that owners only appoint foreign coaches because they are anti-English? If there was an English coach around with any decent pedigree (winning something) he'd be snapped up in no time by a top PL club.

Anyway, it winds me up and I wish he'd stop talking shite.
 

Mainze said:
I wish he was obsessed with getting 3 points.
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Agreed.

One thing that worries me is that, much like his mate who has here before, none of this will be his fault if we go down. He'll be the first to pat himself on the back if we stay up but will be off like a shot blaming everyone else if he fails.
 
Nelson! said:
Agreed.

One thing that worries me is that, much like his mate who has here before, none of this will be his fault if we go down. He'll be the first to pat himself on the back if we stay up but will be off like a shot blaming everyone else if he fails.
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Disagree there but hopefully we won't find out

Eddie Hitler said:
Whys everyone and his dog slagging BSA off all of a sudden?
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Nerves marra it's getting to some so they lash out at their nearest and dearest
 
Nelson! said:
English as opposed to foreign coaches. He's complained about it numerous times and even since he's been here he's made some quasi-xenophobic comments about both Benitez (fair enough, we're in a relegation scrap with them) and Klopp. He also had a moan when Monk was sacked by Swansea.....but has said nowt about the foreign coach who has them safe with a few games to spare when they looked doomed under Monk.

He's always citing "evidence" and how it's "proven" that their methods don't work. I'd say the fact Wilko was the last English manager to win the PL, barely any English managers have won major trophies in the last 20 years and the English national team's most successful coach in that time was from Sweden is pretty conclusive evidence that they are simply are not as good as their foreign counter parts. He seems unwilling to listen to this evidence though and it's all some outrageous plot to keep the English coaches down.

Does he honestly expect us to believe that owners only appoint foreign coaches because they are anti-English? If there was an English coach around with any decent pedigree (winning something) he'd be snapped up in no time by a top PL club.

Anyway, it winds me up and I wish he'd stop talking shite.
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So fergie being from glasgow was a foreign coach
 
Nelson! said:
Agreed.

One thing that worries me is that, much like his mate who has here before, none of this will be his fault if we go down. He'll be the first to pat himself on the back if we stay up but will be off like a shot blaming everyone else if he fails.
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Aye, we should have stuck with the Dutch fella, might have beaten Derby's record! :rolleyes::oops:
 
Royal 8er said:
So fergie being from glasgow was a foreign coach
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He's certainly not English. Which is what Allardyce is always moaning about.

mackempt said:
Aye, we should have stuck with the Dutch fella, might have beaten Derby's record! :rolleyes::oops:
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The Dutch fella who has won several major honors all over Europe. I agree he was doing poorly here and Allardyce is doing better but it hardly proves his point about foreign coaches. I'd say compare their trophies but Allardyce hasn't won any....ever.
 
Nelson! said:
He's certainly not English. Which is what Allardyce is always moaning about.



The Dutch fella who has won several major honors all over Europe. I agree he was doing poorly here and Allardyce is doing better but it hardly proves his point about foreign coaches. I'd say compare their trophies but Allardyce hasn't won any....ever.
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I couldn't care less about past trophies. The fact is the Dutch fella (for whatever reason) was taking us down for certain. BSA has given us a chance and is not the long ball merchant the red tops would have you believe.
 
mackempt said:
I couldn't care less about past trophies. The fact is the Dutch fella (for whatever reason) was taking us down for certain. BSA has given us a chance and is not the long ball merchant the red tops would have you believe.
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I agree with that. I still don't see what it has to do with him constantly slagging off foreign coaches when they've proven time and again to be better than the English alternatives tho.
 
Nelson! said:
I agree with that. I still don't see what it has to do with him constantly slagging off foreign coaches when they've proven time and again to be better than the English alternatives tho.
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Has he said owt about Ranieri yet? It's his opinion but it does come up now and again mind.
 
Eddie Hitler said:
Fair enough but reading other threads everyone just seems to be all of a sudden having a pop.
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Because the penny has dropped that whereas when we brought him in as manager, he was meant to be the closest thing to a guarantee against relegation, in actual fact, we are likely to get relegated, we are playing for clean sheets when we need to win games, the team he now has is underachieving when it comes to results, his selections and substitutions are consistently shite, and his response is to focus on Crystal Palace and Rafa Benitez?

Kid Galahad said:
Has he said owt about Ranieri yet? It's his opinion but it does come up now and again mind.
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Aye, its down to Nigel Pearson getting it right, and Wenger, Mourinho, van Gaal, and Pellegrini getting it wrong. :lol:

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Lanchesterredandwhite said:
Because the penny has dropped that whereas when we brought him in as manager, he was meant to be the closest thing to a guarantee against relegation, in actual fact, we are likely to get relegated, we are playing for clean sheets when we need to win games, the team he now has is underachieving when it comes to results, his selections and substitutions are consistently shite, and his response is to focus on Crystal Palace and Rafa Benitez?



Aye, its down to Nigel Pearson getting it right, and Wenger, Mourinho, van Gaal, and Pellegrini getting it wrong. :lol:

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English manager see, he was right all along! (f***ing hell I hope he keeps us up as he's going to look a proper numpty getting pipped by a Spaniard who's been there five minutes or a Jock with zero experience of the league!)
 
Nelson! said:
English as opposed to foreign coaches. He's complained about it numerous times and even since he's been here he's made some quasi-xenophobic comments about both Benitez (fair enough, we're in a relegation scrap with them) and Klopp. He also had a moan when Monk was sacked by Swansea.....but has said nowt about the foreign coach who has them safe with a few games to spare when they looked doomed under Monk.

He's always citing "evidence" and how it's "proven" that their methods don't work. I'd say the fact Wilko was the last English manager to win the PL, barely any English managers have won major trophies in the last 20 years and the English national team's most successful coach in that time was from Sweden is pretty conclusive evidence that they are simply are not as good as their foreign counter parts. He seems unwilling to listen to this evidence though and it's all some outrageous plot to keep the English coaches down.

Does he honestly expect us to believe that owners only appoint foreign coaches because they are anti-English? If there was an English coach around with any decent pedigree (winning something) he'd be snapped up in no time by a top PL club.

Anyway, it winds me up and I wish he'd stop talking shite.
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He talks absolute shit imo
 
Nelson! said:
Agreed.

One thing that worries me is that, much like his mate who has here before, none of this will be his fault if we go down. He'll be the first to pat himself on the back if we stay up but will be off like a shot blaming everyone else if he fails.
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The fella is a gobshite but doing the above would just make him the same as every other manager in the game. None of them will take their fair share of blame - even the 'nice' ones.
 
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