Jack Torrance
Striker
He's just took a total guess and should be punished
Aleem Dar
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mackembhoy
Striker
It was out now we've seen the other angle.
But he completely guessed which is shameful, especially as the decision was taken so soon.
Billy Rocket
Winger
You did, but it was glenn mcgrath
Ah that explains it. He also said Malan was out middle stump on the one that they unsuccessfully reviewed.
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stephen cartwright
Guest
He gave it, due to a small spike on snicko
That is what he said to Erasmus as the reason to change his decision.
He didn't mention it hitting anything but relied totally on snicko.
As a camera angle later confirmed, he was correct to do so.
That is what he said to Erasmus as the reason to change his decision.
He didn't mention it hitting anything but relied totally on snicko.
As a camera angle later confirmed, he was correct to do so.
The Voice Of Reason
Striker
If there is doubt and there was it should go the batsmans way he shouldn't be guessing the system was put in place to rule out an obvious mistake
Doesn't matter if replays later on prove it he needs to judge what he has available at that time
Would have said the same if it was one of them
Doesn't matter if replays later on prove it he needs to judge what he has available at that time
Would have said the same if it was one of them
Jack Torrance
Striker
Has to be enough evidence to overturn a decision and there wasn't. He took a guess
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stephen cartwright
Guest
The commentary between him and Erasmus could be heard and he said there was a spike in snicko. That's what he went on.
No guessing, just a spike shown
Jack Torrance
Striker
You couldn't even tell what glove it hit. Looked like it came off the other glove which wasn't on the bat using the evidence he saw
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stephen cartwright
Guest
I agree with that, however he gave it on snicko and the spike. That was clearly heard on the commentary
Steak Pie
Striker
I still disagree.
If you watch the three frames on Snicko. The first one the ball is visible in front of the bat, the second one the ball disappears behind the bat handle/glove, but it's only the third frame that has the spike. If you look at the distance the ball travels between frames one and two, the ball would be well past the bat on frame three. Stoneman says the ball hit his grill not his bat, and this would time correctly with the spike on Snicko.
The angle from behind shows the ball pass close to the glove, but doesn't confirm it IMO.
It's a ridiculous decision, worthy of being removed from the Test overnight.
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stephen cartwright
Guest
I'm not disagreeing with anyone, just giving the reason dar came to his decision. He said there was a spike on snicko and Erasmus could reverse his decision
Tonton Zola Moukoko
Midfield
Agree with that analysis. Pundits are all saying that angle from behind confirms right decision for wrong reasons but I don’t think it confirms anything. It’s a ludicrous decision, worries me that an umpire of such experience would give it. Seems a little odd.
Voice of fair play
Striker
There is one person in the whole ground who knows whether he hit it or not?
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stephen cartwright
Guest
Boycoutt?
Voice of fair play
Striker
No Stoneman
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stephen cartwright
Guest
Personally thought it was out, but there was hardly a convincing camera angle.
Dar give it from snicko. There was a minute looking glint on hotspot as well.
Was a tough one but we are well in this game now. A similar day tomorrow and we may get right back into this series
Steak Pie
Striker
And he says it grazed the grill on his helmet.
Voice of fair play
Striker
So then the people who are saying the right decision for wrong reasons must be incorrect?
Well yes, when that’s the rule
Voice of fair play
Striker
But he is saying it hit his grill
