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Grumpy Old Man said:
Anyone who renews a season ticket purely on the basis of a rumoured takeover still at the due diligence stage is, frankly, two sandwiches short of a picnic.
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Thing is Grumpy some of our fans are very gullible. I'd go as far to say some of them want to be gullible.

WHD said:
Venkys sacked Allardyce and replaced him with Steve Kean resulting in relegation. Short seen the FA poach Allardyce and replaced him with a reputedly competent premier league manager and the result was relegation.

I think the main difference is the Venkys inexplicably sacked a successful manager and replaced him with a novice.
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So in other words different means, but the same ends, thanks for clearing that up.
 
Alan Nixon is fairly defensive about his ITK status, understandable since he has probably the best reputation for it on twitter. Makes me think it'd make him look stupid that he's immediately out of date with his story, so he does have reason to continue backing his story whether it's true or not.
 
GinoBartali said:
Going by the amount of people who are seemingly “In the know”, it wouldn’t surprise me if there were a number of tyre kickers around who’ve had a look at the club.

It seems to me that the real issue in the whole deal will be the secured finance with the loan provider that isn’t Ellis Short, It would be extraordinary if they weren’t first required to give consent to the assignment of that debt elsewhere and if that were me, I’d be sticking with my boy Ellis, far better a billionaire on the hook that a diverse group of consortium members.

I think the club are snookered for this reason and this reason alone.
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I'll gladly take someone slightly less wealthy but who is actively working hard to make it a success at all levels
 
janey said:
Now I’m not having that mind I find that insulting
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I like you @janey, you're a good fan. The thing is I just can't see how Short and the Venky's are different. They're both foreign owners that "knew little about football" and still do, they have both "caused chaos" at their respective clubs. You're right to point out you'd "hate the likes of Venky's" but I just don't see how Short is any different. I even had it with had with my Dad once, usually quite an open-minded person. We were having an argument about Short and he said to me (essentially) 'we don't want Short to leave, we might get a foreign owner, I know some have been good but some are bad, and I mean criminally bad'. Short of course is a foreign owner - he's American. That really made me think if Short looked different, or if he was from a different part of the world, if he'd be treated differently.

The Venky's come up every single time this rears its head. It's not fair. It's the equivalent of saying 'Abramovich' every time a change of ownership is mentioned. It's just the wrong way to look at it.

The irony of course if this deal had gone through we would have had foreign owners. People seriously need to stop the Johnny Foreigner attitude. It's absolutely obsolete in modern football. It's doesn't matter where owners are from. You get good foreign owners, average foreign owners, and bad foreign owners. By the same token you get you get good UK owners, average UK owners, and bad UK owners. All that really matters: 1) Do they know what they're doing? 2) Do they have the required funds? 3) Will they be committed enough? That's what'll separate us having us good owners and bad owners, probably in that order. It doesn't matter if they're from Seaham or Shanghai.
 
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Oh well. Another time waster gone.
 
Mackemed said:
So in other words different means, but the same ends, thanks for clearing that up.
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No, I mean the Venkys sacking of Allardyce was self inflicted and lead to their relegation. Allardyce leaving Sunderland was out of the clubs hands and on paper at least we employed a suitable replacement. Blackburn replaced Allardyce with Kean.
 
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