A stupid gamble on evil machines....

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PABLO said:
Never really understood the obsession with casinos and that, it's all just chance, regardless of 'strategies'
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It isn't chance mate, it's stacked to the house which makes it worse. The only game of probability you can win is poker of you are good at probability.
 
monkeytassle said:
It isn't chance mate, it's stacked to the house which makes it worse. The only game of probability you can win is poker of you are good at probability.
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Poker has an awful lot of skill. A good poker player will come out on top against a bad poker player in the long run.

Same with Backgammon, not that I'm that good.
 
zwartekat said:
I'd love to know which bookmaker was offering 10/3 for Mayweather.
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Probably odds on. Betfair was 1.25 all Saturday.

Harry Angstrom said:
Poker has an awful lot of skill. A good poker player will come out on top against a bad poker player in the long run.

Same with Backgammon, not that I'm that good.
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Of course. It's probability. I have a friend who is a good trader and he's always at WSOP every year. Risk management and probability.
 
Beaker said:
Logical reasoning like that goes out the window where I'm concerned sadly.

It's a terrifying thought for me that not only could I relapse one day. But that if I do, it won't just be a one off, there's a very real possibility of me ending up back at square one with the square foot of fuck all.

287 days without and I still get the urge to gamble every single day. The urge has never went away. I just got better at managing my urges.

It's scary. Gambling is everywhere.

Betting shops
The Lotto
Scratch cards
Postcode Lottery
Online Casinos
Fruit Machines
Amusement Arcades
On TV

There's even apps out there with gambling built into kids games. You don't gamble real money, but tokens earned in the games, but the further you get in the game the harder the tokens are to come by, so once you've gambled them all away, the inevitable option to purchase tokens via in app purchases appears.

I read the stories on here of people who are "in control" of their gambling, without a care in the world.
That was me once, the odd tenner here and there on the footy, until one day I spunked the thick end of 10 grand away in about 40 minutes.

If my now wife hadn't opened my bank statement by mistake one day then fuck knows where I'd be right now. Alone, homeless maybe even dead. I've no idea.

I apologise to anyone reading this for my rambling posts on the matter but it helps me to vent like this from time to time.
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I don't know how you personally keep off the machines. I found a great way was that if i'd done well & not played one when I was really itching; i'd be honest & think of the money i'd probably have put into it and put it away somewhere. Got some nice treats doing that :cool:
 
hypersonic said:
I don't know how you personally keep off the machines. I found a great way was that if i'd done well & not played one when I was really itching; i'd be honest & think of the money i'd probably have put into it and put it away somewhere. Got some nice treats doing that :cool:
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I've never bey on machines for reasons I've stated but I can see the attraction. I often find myself keen as mustard for the next race to get going so am dead keen to bet.
 
PhilSAFC said:
scary stuff mate. What makes it so addictive for you? the chance of a big win?
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It was never about a big win for me. The ones I did see never materialised as I'd gambled them away before withdrawing a penny.

I gambled so much and often it became a habit. If I had my phone in my hand, I was gambling. Wether it be on the sofa, in bed, at work or on the pot. It was too easy. I stopped even caring about playing the online slots, I'd just put money into my account, set it away on auto spin and go about my business. Come back a while later and see if I was up or down, if I was up, that meant more spins, never more money for my bank account, if I was down, then more money went In, not to chase my losses so much, but to let me continue my habit. Its an overwhelming urge that just comes over me, one I'm keeping under control right now but it's still there.

I have to distract myself. Think of my family. Think of my son, turn off my phone, go for a walk without it or wallet til the urge passes.

I've self excluded from every account I've ever had, so fortunately there wouldn't be a quick way to put an online bet on.

I've tried gambling counselling with Necca in Sunderland, counselling for my mental health with the NHS and gamblers anonymous meetings in Newcastle. There's no quick fix, and like any addiction, you have to want to beat it.

Now, whenever I get the urge, I log into my online banking instead and transfer £5 into my savings account, a small fraction of what id gamble away but I've managed to save a small fortune by comparison to what I had before I stopped.
We've managed to buy a house, have holidays. I can treat my wife to flowers and meals and days out, where before I could barely feed myself without relying on her and others.

Oh, and I'm sat in McDonald's writing this, and a lass has just called her 2 daughters over to a table, they can only be about 8 years old at most, their names..... Pepsi & Shirley!!!!!

Cheered me up no end has that.
 
Beaker said:
It was never about a big win for me. The ones I did see never materialised as I'd gambled them away before withdrawing a penny.

I gambled so much and often it became a habit. If I had my phone in my hand, I was gambling. Wether it be on the sofa, in bed, at work or on the pot. It was too easy. I stopped even caring about playing the online slots, I'd just put money into my account, set it away on auto spin and go about my business. Come back a while later and see if I was up or down, if I was up, that meant more spins, never more money for my bank account, if I was down, then more money went In, not to chase my losses so much, but to let me continue my habit. Its an overwhelming urge that just comes over me, one I'm keeping under control right now but it's still there.

I have to distract myself. Think of my family. Think of my son, turn off my phone, go for a walk without it or wallet til the urge passes.

I've self excluded from every account I've ever had, so fortunately there wouldn't be a quick way to put an online bet on.

I've tried gambling counselling with Necca in Sunderland, counselling for my mental health with the NHS and gamblers anonymous meetings in Newcastle. There's no quick fix, and like any addiction, you have to want to beat it.

Now, whenever I get the urge, I log into my online banking instead and transfer £5 into my savings account, a small fraction of what id gamble away but I've managed to save a small fortune by comparison to what I had before I stopped.
We've managed to buy a house, have holidays. I can treat my wife to flowers and meals and days out, where before I could barely feed myself without relying on her and others.

Oh, and I'm sat in McDonald's writing this, and a lass has just called her 2 daughters over to a table, they can only be about 8 years old at most, their names..... Pepsi & Shirley!!!!!

Cheered me up no end has that.
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Nice to hear it's working. Keep it up.
 
---Nemo--- said:
I appreciate your concern marra but not a chance. :)

In my youth I enjoyed a bet on the horses (Reduced to an occasional visit to Cartmel these days) hand on heart here though, I've never once played a bandit.
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I feel better now, the thought of maybe having to get my hand down was killing me :p
 
monkeytassle said:
I've never bey on machines for reasons I've stated but I can see the attraction. I often find myself keen as mustard for the next race to get going so am dead keen to bet.
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I think we all have different triggers, I've gone in too deep myself plenty of times. Fortunately it's the skill/puzzle element that was always my trigger. Pitting my skill at solving the puzzle and spotting value in the bookies prices. For that reason machines and casinos have never even remotely interested me which has no doubt saved me over the years as I do have an addictive personality. I also got banned by most major bookies years ago which led me to sports trading which, whilst still gambling, is a much smoother ride.
 
Beaker said:
It was never about a big win for me. The ones I did see never materialised as I'd gambled them away before withdrawing a penny.

I gambled so much and often it became a habit. If I had my phone in my hand, I was gambling. Wether it be on the sofa, in bed, at work or on the pot. It was too easy. I stopped even caring about playing the online slots, I'd just put money into my account, set it away on auto spin and go about my business. Come back a while later and see if I was up or down, if I was up, that meant more spins, never more money for my bank account, if I was down, then more money went In, not to chase my losses so much, but to let me continue my habit. Its an overwhelming urge that just comes over me, one I'm keeping under control right now but it's still there.

I have to distract myself. Think of my family. Think of my son, turn off my phone, go for a walk without it or wallet til the urge passes.

I've self excluded from every account I've ever had, so fortunately there wouldn't be a quick way to put an online bet on.

I've tried gambling counselling with Necca in Sunderland, counselling for my mental health with the NHS and gamblers anonymous meetings in Newcastle. There's no quick fix, and like any addiction, you have to want to beat it.

Now, whenever I get the urge, I log into my online banking instead and transfer £5 into my savings account, a small fraction of what id gamble away but I've managed to save a small fortune by comparison to what I had before I stopped.
We've managed to buy a house, have holidays. I can treat my wife to flowers and meals and days out, where before I could barely feed myself without relying on her and others.

Oh, and I'm sat in McDonald's writing this, and a lass has just called her 2 daughters over to a table, they can only be about 8 years old at most, their names..... Pepsi & Shirley!!!!!

Cheered me up no end has that.
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Beaker, can you clear your inboxes mate so I can send you a pm

FC United of Manchester said:
I think we all have different triggers, I've gone in too deep myself plenty of times. Fortunately it's the skill/puzzle element that was always my trigger. Pitting my skill at solving the puzzle and spotting value in the bookies prices. For that reason machines and casinos have never even remotely interested me which has no doubt saved me over the years as I do have an addictive personality. I also got banned by most major bookies years ago which led me to sports trading which, whilst still gambling, is a much smoother ride.
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classed as psycho analytical that is, which was my problem
 
I only ever hoy in 2.20 on the roulette after putting on an acca. If I win and get 7.20 will do another spin and if lose second spin take my 5a.

If I win second spin will do a 3rd and take the 10a
 
One of my saddest days was helping my mate move out of his 3 bed semi on a nice area to move him into a rented terrace house. We both come from poor families and it was his dream to move into the nice area he was in.A modest dream but he achieved it for his family and I was happy for him. Over a few pints he let me know he was bankrupt and they were taking his house. I helped him move but it was sad as fuck. Over 150k in casinos and online gambling :( Clever bloke anarl just with a massive addictive personality. His lass stuck by him and he's fine now with a good job but what a waste
 
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