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5th test the oval

mackembhoy said:
We've got four frontline bowlers and the youngest is 33. We've also only got 10 batsman.

I posted before we've been bowling/fielding for 3 more days than the Aussies during the series. This definitely will have taken its toll seeing as Broad has been out there for nearly every part of it.

I guess the rain is the problem. But it's mental if we don't try and bat the day out. The only way we take 10 wickets is if our bowlers are fresh and rested.

We know they don't do it but it's definitely been at the detriment to our bowlers.

Lot of column inches about Jimmy underperforming. Maybe a factor is that he's closer to 41 than 40. We've also fielded for 3 more days across the series than the Aussies. Headingley(the game he missed) being the only match where the fielding was relatively close to even. We bowled 117 Aussies 102.
Edit me maths is wrong 102 to 127 :lol:

Obviously at rate we score we should bowl more. But it can't not be a factor in Jimmy having less zip than normal.
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Very fair points tbf.
 

mackembhoy said:
We've got four frontline bowlers and the youngest is 33. We've also only got 10 batsman.

I posted before we've been bowling/fielding for 3 more days than the Aussies during the series. This definitely will have taken its toll seeing as Broad has been out there for nearly every part of it.

I guess the rain is the problem. But it's mental if we don't try and bat the day out. The only way we take 10 wickets is if our bowlers are fresh and rested.

We know they don't do it but it's definitely been at the detriment to our bowlers.

Lot of column inches about Jimmy underperforming. Maybe a factor is that he's closer to 41 than 40. We've also fielded for 3 more days across the series than the Aussies. Headingley(the game he missed) being the only match where the fielding was relatively close to even. We bowled 117 Aussies 102.
Edit me maths is wrong 102 to 127 :lol:

Obviously at rate we score we should bowl more. But it can't not be a factor in Jimmy having less zip than normal.
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Good post and all true. The last couple of tests have finished earlier than scheduled which is probably why the likes of Broad have played again. England know the downsides of playing this way but feel that our batsmen playing traditional test match cricket against their bowlers in those conditions get rolled for 180. It’s a difficult balance.
Wayne The Punk said:
Bat to 380 , get them in for 20 minutes, hopefully the pitch starts doing stuff towards the end of the day
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If carlsberg did cricket days and things could be as simple
 
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essex boy said:
Depends which angle you want to take. Khawaja scored 141 in the first innings at Edgbaston but since Wood entered the fray at Headingley he has mustered a meagre 124 runs and looks a walking wicket. If Wood is too good for Khawaja I would suggest he would have been far too good for Cummins and Lyon at Edgbaston. We lost at Edgbaston because we declared early, were undercooked and did not pick a quick to get through the tail


I would not disagree but the odd draw will appear here and there
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You keep going on about Wood not being selected for Edgbaston, he wasn’t fully fit.
 
essex boy said:
My perception of the first test is a little different to yours. Stokes asked for a flat wicket, opted to pick no genuine quick (we dropped Tongue from the Ireland test and Wood was not selected) then proceeded to watch the Australian 8th wicket add 50 odd in the 4th innings, some may say that is freakish, against a one dimensional bowling attack others may say Cummins and Lyon applied themselves. If I recall England dropped quite a few catches in the test as well due to a lack of match sharpness. I cant say that is domination but everyone is entitled to their opinion


My perception of Bazball is we score at nigh on 5 an over on average, some games will be higher, some lower than the average. I do not believe England have quite mastered when to go all out and when to rein it in. Hence we see some exhilarating batting at times (OT) and some fairly abysmal batting at others (Lords first innings). Because England play test cricket like a ODI, it does not mean other sides will look to match them so time can still be taken out of a game to enable a draw when rain is around
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In the first test we played some great stuff. The neck end of 400 runs in 70 odd overs and took 18 Australian wickets but loads of basic dropped catches cost us a comfortable win. If we were undercooked it was solely on catching a cricket ball which is of course very important.
 
4 more straight by ducky

the lead is nearly gone . Lead has gone :lol:

after 1 over. Let’s get ready to rumble

England lead by 1
 
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