CaptainRed
Midfield
I'd guess at 36K in ground.
That's exactly what I thought!
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I'd guess at 36K in ground.
That's what Danny Collins estimated.That's exactly what I thought!
Numbers actually attended will be known as you say.It won’t be police man, why would they give a flying F on tickets sold…. They want to know numbers there and risk management
It is to a degree ….. but a real issue at the SOL …. It’s not as though there are many Tourists/ foreign fans
I get that all clubs need to do it, and of course safc must obey the rules. But the rules are daft. The should tell hmrc the number sold, and tell everyone else (fans, police, media) the number in actual attendance on the day.Been done to death. Its how it is measured nationally and it’s bought ticket’s considering tax and police etc. probably illegal to do otherwise.
Are you expecting SAFC to risk breaking the law?
The police will want to know daft lad - they will plan resource’s accordingly on the crowd expected.It won’t be police man, why would they give a flying F on tickets sold…. They want to know numbers there and risk management
It is to a degree ….. but a real issue at the SOL …. It’s not as though there are many Tourists/ foreign fans
Then some need to blame the rules not the club then. There are very good reasons, some legal, why they use the tickets sold number.I get that all clubs need to do it, and of course safc must obey the rules. But the rules are daft. The should tell hmrc the number sold, and tell everyone else (fans, police, media) the number in actual attendance on the day.
NR man read what I typed…. They want to know people there not tickets soldThe police will want to know daft lad - they will plan resource’s accordingly on the crowd expected.
Then some need to blame the rules not the club then. There are very good reasons, some legal, why they use the tickets sold number.
We are not attractive compared to southern clubs, they'd rather buy the likes of Brentford. We are in the poorest region in the UK by some measures, they can only get so much revenue out of us before they start pricing us out whilst wealthier areas have a higher revenue ceiling.Anyone in the outside with plenty of cash who wants to invest in a club outside of premiership who have massive potential and arguably have never fulfilled that .,,, can’t think of a better example than us
I have eyes.NR man read what I typed…. They want to know people there not tickets sold
Lot of good points there mate. Club will never be able to compete with the top clubs but we can do more. Ticket pricing needs to be realistic when we get back to PL. Yes, we will at some point.We are not attractive compared to southern clubs, they'd rather buy the likes of Brentford. We are in the poorest region in the UK by some measures, they can only get so much revenue out of us before they start pricing us out whilst wealthier areas have a higher revenue ceiling.
I think the Saudis are realising the limitations up here in terms of revenue and the strict FFP rules coming in. They'll have to build a new stadium à la Tottenham with bars, restaurants, entertainment on all week etc. to increase their revenue significantly and even then it won't result in anywhere close to Spurs.
Then you have the problem of many players not wanting to live up here when they can live in London instead. I can see Newcastle opening a training facility and academy down London to attract top talent without having to offer huge wages to beat off Arsenal, Chelsea etc. They'll then fly them up for match days every 2 weeks.
Aye we get big crowds but ticket sales are a small percentage of a clubs revenue. In the premier league it's less than 10% of most clubs total revenue. Broadcasts and commercial sales make up the brunt of a clubs revenue, in terms of the latter again I think our potential is limited given the wealth of the area. Fans in the south have more money to spend on merchandise, food, and drink.
This is a major problem for the one time successfull provincial clubs that are now in unfashionable parts of the country.We are not attractive compared to southern clubs, they'd rather buy the likes of Brentford. We are in the poorest region in the UK by some measures, they can only get so much revenue out of us before they start pricing us out whilst wealthier areas have a higher revenue ceiling.
I think the Saudis are realising the limitations up here in terms of revenue and the strict FFP rules coming in. They'll have to build a new stadium à la Tottenham with bars, restaurants, entertainment on all week etc. to increase their revenue significantly and even then it won't result in anywhere close to Spurs.
Then you have the problem of many players not wanting to live up here when they can live in London instead. I can see Newcastle opening a training facility and academy down London to attract top talent without having to offer huge wages to beat off Arsenal, Chelsea etc. They'll then fly them up for match days every 2 weeks.
Aye we get big crowds but ticket sales are a small percentage of a clubs revenue. In the premier league it's less than 10% of most clubs total revenue. Broadcasts and commercial sales make up the brunt of a clubs revenue, in terms of the latter again I think our potential is limited given the wealth of the area. Fans in the south have more money to spend on merchandise, food, and drink.
This is a major problem for the one time successfull provincial clubs that are now in unfashionable parts of the country.
Think Burnley, Preston, Blackpool and now Sunderland.
I read that the average spend of a Spurs fan at their new stadium is something like £16. They could let everyone in for free and still swamp our matchday revenue.
When we were in the Premier League in the Reid era there was a less uneven playing field. The broadcasting money from SKY alone, if spent wisely, would guarantee relative success for any club. Matchday revenue was a small part of turnover for all but three or four clubs - most grounds were basic with sponsorship and overseas commercial income hardly a factor. Now everything is different. The game has captured the attention of just about everyone; it is no longer the preserve of the poorer working class.
Money is no object. As you correctly point out we are situated in a poor part of the country. This didn't matter before. In the early eighties, for example, we were able to charge slightly higher admission prices than Arsenal. In the sixties, as a team striving to get out of the Second Division, Sunderland paid higher wages than Manchester United and most of the other top flight clubs.
If Newcastle were to allow their players to live and train in London if would only be viable if the earning potential at St James' was much greater and the club could overcome FPP constraints. That is highly unlikely unless they go for the nuclear solution of a brand new stadium.
The Saudis may at some point question their whole involvement with Newcastle.
That includes admission price.Average spend of a Spurs fan per game is £71. Man Utd £64 and Chelsea £62.
The demise starred in the 60s when the players started moving to the cities. Up until then they were more than happy to stay placed in the smaller towns and being the big fish.This is a major problem for the one time successfull provincial clubs that are now in unfashionable parts of the country.
Think Burnley, Preston, Blackpool and now Sunderland.
I read that the average spend of a Spurs fan at their new stadium is something like £16. They could let everyone in for free and still swamp our matchday revenue.
When we were in the Premier League in the Reid era there was a less uneven playing field. The broadcasting money from SKY alone, if spent wisely, would guarantee relative success for any club. Matchday revenue was a small part of turnover for all but three or four clubs - most grounds were basic with sponsorship and overseas commercial income hardly a factor. Now everything is different. The game has captured the attention of just about everyone; it is no longer the preserve of the poorer working class.
Money is no object. As you correctly point out we are situated in a poor part of the country. This didn't matter before. In the early eighties, for example, we were able to charge slightly higher admission prices than Arsenal. In the sixties, as a team striving to get out of the Second Division, Sunderland paid higher wages than Manchester United and most of the other top flight clubs.
If Newcastle were to allow their players to live and train in London if would only be viable if the earning potential at St James' was much greater and the club could overcome FPP constraints. That is highly unlikely unless they go for the nuclear solution of a brand new stadium.
The Saudis may at some point question their whole involvement with Newcastle.
And we benefitted from being close for signing Scottish talent - their game had footballers on a par with many in the English game.The demise starred in the 60s when the players started moving to the cities. Up until then they were more than happy to stay placed in the smaller towns and being the big fish.