Sea to Shining Sea
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He’s a better option than Crawley. But I don’t think he was dropped because the suits didn’t like his technique
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2nd test Old Trafford
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He’s a better option than Crawley. But I don’t think he was dropped because the suits didn’t like his technique
Not at all. Like everyone he will be in and out of the squad regularly. That’s life in top class cricket. He’ll be back. In the meantime he’ll just have to get used to it.
TheRey
Striker
Why not? It's why he had to score over 1,000 runs four year on the trot just to get selected.
You take away the 267, and he average sub 21 in tests now
I know it’s unfair. But it’s important when it’s such an outlier
I know it’s unfair. But it’s important when it’s such an outlier
TheRey
Striker
I'm honestly not being silly when I say this - I'm surprised he averages over 20, I really am.
Only caveat to that is that that Ashes 100 was one of the luckiest I’ve ever seen. But yeah, I’d have him in too.
I’m old school and want our openers to block out the new ball and set up the game for our stroke players.
wednesday1957
Midfield
I would sooner have Burns than Crawley
Crawleys nerves must be shot, and you can't keep simply hoping he will put the loose shot back in his locker.
Burns?...Yea he looks awkward, its not text book, but owt that works for an opener.
We do need a defensive opener, Alex lees isn't it, crawley certainly isn't it, but lees has a better technique at the moment.
Englands new .."We can chase 300 second innings" or whatever..will fail more times than it succeeds in a year of test cricket in my opinion.
We need a solid base..We really haven't got it
Crawleys nerves must be shot, and you can't keep simply hoping he will put the loose shot back in his locker.
Burns?...Yea he looks awkward, its not text book, but owt that works for an opener.
We do need a defensive opener, Alex lees isn't it, crawley certainly isn't it, but lees has a better technique at the moment.
Englands new .."We can chase 300 second innings" or whatever..will fail more times than it succeeds in a year of test cricket in my opinion.
We need a solid base..We really haven't got it
TheRey
Striker
In fairness, if you're gonna score a ton against Hazelwood, Starc, Cummings and Lyon, you're gunna need some luck on the way
I agree. How many great opening batsmen in history have been stroke players.
I’ll offer up Warner, Sehwag, Slater, Trescothick….struggling now
wednesday1957
Midfield
Greenidge and Haynes could play...We haven't got owt like them, so a Gavaskar or a boycott...need to at least hold an end up...Even a Tavare lol
Good shouts yes
Dexter
Striker
Jayasuriya.
Jack Torrance
Striker
Gayle had a good test record, probably goes under the radar cos of what he did in white ball but 2 triple hundreds is impressive
Voice of fair play
Striker
People tend to forget because he played soo much white ball cricket.
That Chris Gayle was a good test attacking opener as above
That Chris Gayle was a good test attacking opener as above
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TheRey
Striker
He has literally been mentioned in this thread.
Voice of fair play
Striker
I know I typed the post after reading the some of the other posts the one where Chunky was mentioned other attacking openers then looked through the thread and seen he had already been mentioned.
By then already pressed the post button so then added as above
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Opening seems to be the one position where when ur dropped there is seemingly no way back in, unlike 3-6,even root had a spell out of the team at one point during his career due to lack of runs. Opening bat is the hardest position to bat so u would expect more leeway. I'd hope burns would get brought back in the fold and sibley and jennings still in the selectors thoughts rather than trying to fit a number 5-6 as an opener
That’s a really interesting point actually. I can’t think of the last opener who got multiple chances
scotch
Striker
Jennings has changed his technique since he last played for England. Scored that triple century this season and got to 3 figures on a few occasions.
Burns - we know what we are getting, out cheaply or will grind out a score (done this against very good attacks) - Consistently inconsistent
Sibley - similar to burns but without as much credit for England.
Robson - fairly consistent- middling average but done pretty well this season.
Hameed - having a good season but too soon to recall, but could be an option to tour Bangladesh/Pakistan
Duckett - batting 3 but having a fantastic season, it's a 1 ball promotion and hes a better player then when he was last picked.
Personally think Crawley is in last chance saloon here and Lees has got the next 2 tests to have a tour place in the winter.
Burns - we know what we are getting, out cheaply or will grind out a score (done this against very good attacks) - Consistently inconsistent
Sibley - similar to burns but without as much credit for England.
Robson - fairly consistent- middling average but done pretty well this season.
Hameed - having a good season but too soon to recall, but could be an option to tour Bangladesh/Pakistan
Duckett - batting 3 but having a fantastic season, it's a 1 ball promotion and hes a better player then when he was last picked.
Personally think Crawley is in last chance saloon here and Lees has got the next 2 tests to have a tour place in the winter.
I dont think Pope will ever convince me as being a number 3 unless he tightens up playing away from his body (didnt harm Ponting much and tbf that's probably who he should be trying to emulate).
Vaughan....tresco and vaughan in this team...
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