Bin Laden dead?

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CatRyan said:
Glad he's dead.
Sending out execution squads is wrong though.

Hypothetically, if OBL's successor sends an execution squad after Obama and kills him, in retaliation that would be ok too?
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I would assume that they would if they could. That's part of the game called war.
 
Not a war as I would define it. Dropping bombs on hill villages in the hope of killing someone with a different ideology ain't the same as trench warfare.
 
zinedine said:
:)It's all the same.
I can't understand any sympathy for bin laden. Some have quickly forgotten those people throwing themselves from the towers to escape the fire & closer to home the 7/7 London bombings. I've got every sympathy for the Palestinian peoples situation but when any organisation uses terror tactics to further its cause that sympathy quickly disappear)
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You just don´t get it do you.
No one is expressing sympathy for Bin Laden they are questioning extra judicial methods such as state sponsored assassination.
 
ouro said:
Not a war as I would define it. Dropping bombs on hill villages in the hope of killing someone with a different ideology ain't the same as trench warfare.
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It's still war though. Before WWI trench warfare was an alien concept. This is a post modern war.
 
CatRyan said:
Glad he's dead.
Sending out execution squads is wrong though.

Hypothetically, if OBL's successor sends an execution squad after Obama and kills him, in retaliation that would be ok too?
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Aye, its war, obama is a legit target
 
Christ On A Bike said:
That if we have an opportunity to catch a person and quite easily take him into custody that we do so and put him on trial for his crimes, as we live under a system of law?

Just a wild one i'm gunna throw out there.

If the rumours that he was captured and then executed are true, rather than that he died in a struggle then it's a disgrace imo, the ultimate hypocrisy.
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If he was a nobody they likely would have taken him prisoner. The fact that he was a symbol of the best known terrorist organisation in the world meant that it was a smart move to do away with him.

Cant say it bothers me how he met whichever maker deemed to meet him.

The world is full of hypocrisy.
 
El Matador said:
It has been asked before on here ....and not answered. Who next ? Gadaffi, Castro ? And the justification will be what ....they deserved it !
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The answer is a declaration. The US made a declaration that they wouldn't rest until Bin Lid was out of circulation, either dead or alive and I can't for the life of me understand why some folk are so shocked now that he's dead.

I didn't hear any dissenting voices when America made this threat. Where are all the threads over the past 10yrs calling for America to show Bin laden compassion...that every measure should be put in place to bring him in alive and that he should see the inside of a court room if at all possible?
 
JonMc said:
So you wouldn't have been bothered at all if he'd been bombed in said valley then? His life wasn't as important as some perceived act of justice, the decision of which was mebbys took in a split second?
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People needed some sort of result. If he'd decided to hole himself up with an AK47 making some sort of last stand and final attempt to take "1 more western life" as some sort of statement i'd find it fully acceptable he'd been shot dead. I think that we (by that meaning the Western coalition) are constantly trying to put forward certain important standards that all must abide to, one being a uniform system of law and due process.

Even the Israelis tried ex nazis who were involved in the holocaust rather than just bumping them off didn't they?

Upholding our beliefs and principles even in the most extreme of situations would have been a much bigger victory than executing an unarmed man who had been captured. (If version of events is indeed true)

Hardly in tears he's dead, just think we went about it in the wrong way and could have made an extremely positive statement to the rest of the world in therms of what we stand for, rather than being made to look like hypocrites who say one thing on the world stage then just do whatever we please when it suits us for the millionth time.
 
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Christ On A Bike said:
Hardly in tears he's dead, just think we went about it in the wrong way and could have made an extremely positive statement to the rest of the world in therms of what we stand for, rather than being made to look like hypocrites who say one thing on the world stage then just do whatever we please when it suits us for the millionth time.
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That's fair enough but war is war. Any hypocritical tag won't last very long and it'll all be conveniently forgotten, swept under the carpet in the same way that we conveniently forget that we killed german captured prisoners during WWII.

We might well see the same thing happen again with Gaddafi (the US have made more veiled threats in his case) but I would imagine that might be tad more politically sensitive. Just a tad mind.
 
Christ On A Bike said:
People needed some sort of result. If he'd decided to hole himself up with an AK47 making some sort of last stand and final attempt to take "1 more western life" as some sort of statement i'd find it fully acceptable he'd been shot dead. I think that we (by that meaning the Western coalition) are constantly trying to put forward certain important standards that all must abide to, one being a uniform system of law and due process.

Even the Israelis tried ex nazis who were involved in the holocaust rather than just bumping them off didn't they?

Upholding our beliefs and principles even in the most extreme of situations would have been a much bigger victory than executing an unarmed man who had been captured. (If version of events is indeed true)

Hardly in tears he's dead, just think we went about it in the wrong way and could have made an extremely positive statement to the rest of the world in therms of what we stand for, rather than being made to look like hypocrites who say one thing on the world stage then just do whatever we please when it suits us for the millionth time.
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WE went about it the wrong way? It was the Americans,not us.

El Matador said:
You just don´t get it do you.
No one is expressing sympathy for Bin Laden they are questioning extra judicial methods such as state sponsored assassination.
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Maybe you should concentrate on judicial mistakes in england(And Spain) that means there are still people in our prisons who are NOT GUILTY, but have beeen thrown to the wolves, rather than the killing of a bloke who was behind the killing of THOUSANDS, and who would love to have added more
 
El Matador said:
As usual attack the poster and not address the post. :roll:
I´d rather be labelled "loony left" than be an apologist for torture.
So by saying he never had a trial i´m actually questioning his guilt ! Quite an assumption you make....surprise, surprise.

I think you will find the Americans have the person who planned 9/11 but don´t let that get in the way of your advocation of torture and assassination.
You want to live in a world of retribution and revenge, not law.
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I don't think I mentioned you, paranoia or self importance?
The rest of that post is just so much crap.
 
ouro said:
Not a war as I would define it. Dropping bombs on hill villages in the hope of killing someone with a different ideology ain't the same as trench warfare.
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:lol: You'll want him awarded the Nobel peace prize next.
Calling bin-lad just somebody with different ideals is one of the funniest & most incorrect things I've ever read on here.
 
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