El Matador
Striker
I reckon after 2 or 3 times you would click on and realise they arent killing you
That would not stop the feeling of drowning every time you were tortured. He obviously held out for a bit .....85 times ffs.
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I reckon after 2 or 3 times you would click on and realise they arent killing you
Glad he's dead.
Sending out execution squads is wrong though.
Hypothetically, if OBL's successor sends an execution squad after Obama and kills him, in retaliation that would be ok too?
It's all the same.
I can't understand any sympathy for bin laden. Some have quickly forgotten those people throwing themselves from the towers to escape the fire & closer to home the 7/7 London bombings. I've got every sympathy for the Palestinian peoples situation but when any organisation uses terror tactics to further its cause that sympathy quickly disappear)
Not a war as I would define it. Dropping bombs on hill villages in the hope of killing someone with a different ideology ain't the same as trench warfare.
Glad he's dead.
Sending out execution squads is wrong though.
Hypothetically, if OBL's successor sends an execution squad after Obama and kills him, in retaliation that would be ok too?
Aye, its war, obama is a legit target
It has been asked before on here ....and not answered. Who next ? Gadaffi, Castro ? And the justification will be what ....they deserved it !
Sounds good to me
Living up to your reputation of lawlessness.
And your reputation of being a tit
If he was a nobody they likely would have taken him prisoner. The fact that he was a symbol of the best known terrorist organisation in the world meant that it was a smart move to do away with him.That if we have an opportunity to catch a person and quite easily take him into custody that we do so and put him on trial for his crimes, as we live under a system of law?
Just a wild one i'm gunna throw out there.
If the rumours that he was captured and then executed are true, rather than that he died in a struggle then it's a disgrace imo, the ultimate hypocrisy.
It has been asked before on here ....and not answered. Who next ? Gadaffi, Castro ? And the justification will be what ....they deserved it !
So you wouldn't have been bothered at all if he'd been bombed in said valley then? His life wasn't as important as some perceived act of justice, the decision of which was mebbys took in a split second?
Hardly in tears he's dead, just think we went about it in the wrong way and could have made an extremely positive statement to the rest of the world in therms of what we stand for, rather than being made to look like hypocrites who say one thing on the world stage then just do whatever we please when it suits us for the millionth time.
People needed some sort of result. If he'd decided to hole himself up with an AK47 making some sort of last stand and final attempt to take "1 more western life" as some sort of statement i'd find it fully acceptable he'd been shot dead. I think that we (by that meaning the Western coalition) are constantly trying to put forward certain important standards that all must abide to, one being a uniform system of law and due process.
Even the Israelis tried ex nazis who were involved in the holocaust rather than just bumping them off didn't they?
Upholding our beliefs and principles even in the most extreme of situations would have been a much bigger victory than executing an unarmed man who had been captured. (If version of events is indeed true)
Hardly in tears he's dead, just think we went about it in the wrong way and could have made an extremely positive statement to the rest of the world in therms of what we stand for, rather than being made to look like hypocrites who say one thing on the world stage then just do whatever we please when it suits us for the millionth time.
You just don´t get it do you.
No one is expressing sympathy for Bin Laden they are questioning extra judicial methods such as state sponsored assassination.
As usual attack the poster and not address the post. :roll:
I´d rather be labelled "loony left" than be an apologist for torture.
So by saying he never had a trial i´m actually questioning his guilt ! Quite an assumption you make....surprise, surprise.
I think you will find the Americans have the person who planned 9/11 but don´t let that get in the way of your advocation of torture and assassination.
You want to live in a world of retribution and revenge, not law.
Castro? Please keep up.It has been asked before on here ....and not answered. Who next ? Gadaffi, Castro ? And the justification will be what ....they deserved it !
Not a war as I would define it. Dropping bombs on hill villages in the hope of killing someone with a different ideology ain't the same as trench warfare.