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Diarra lately


I called him utter, utter shit and felt a bit guilty tbh, maybe I’m just getting old and soft now. I haven’t played at his level but have played a lot of football and you’re never gonna get near your best when your season is as stop/start as his has been. He does get himself into some cracking positions tbf so I’m sure in time it’ll happen. He seems to be over hitting simple balls a lot recently.

22is still very young, he’s played a lot of football too for his age, well over 100 league games, we are gonna have to be patient with him and just hope in time he improves, he cost far to much for us to give up on.
 
Red said:
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Unless Diarra has eyes in the back of his head, he doesn't see Talbi at all until he's shaping to chip the ball.
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You've never played football have you? At this level he should have the awareness to glance over his shoulders to see what his options are. He went for glory and tried to finesse it. It was bad decision making, too many of our players have it in front of goal this season, we should be about 12 points better off if they finished the sitters they've missed.
 
Dogbark said:
He's not a scapegoat mind. Our defending was shocking.
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Unfortunately he is in the eyes of some. For a team whose whole defensive ethos is to force teams wide and dominate our own box, we were shocking in that respect. They simply targeted the weak link and got joy. Both with crosses and with long balls into Watkins. Diarra had a canny game imo. If we had taken a point it would be forgotten about.
 
Chewit said:
Don’t agree, the probability of scoring is far higher if it’s hard and low either side of him.
I goalie stands tall til a player commits himself… if he gets to close odds on the goalie will save it, particularly if he gets to chip it… which is what he did.
I think it was showboating when it needed a clinical finish.
Glad the players have confidence to try things but that strikes me as youthful lack of discipline
Onwards and upwards
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I think Diarra is still feeling his way back after injury and hopefully he'll learn from it and get a goal against Forest.
 
BucketBiff said:
Said it loads. He wasn’t the reason we lost yesterday. Was our inability to deal with balls into the box. We’ve been superb at it all season.
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For me the problem was letting the balls get crossed in the first place. For the first one Reinildo and Le Fée made a pigs ears of it , with Le Fée (?) failing to track back and for the 2nd Rigg did little better. Not that either had bad games overall. Le Fée looks better in the middle. I can remember times last season as well when he messed up on defensive duties when being played on the wing.
 
Didn’t see the game or mange to follow it on Sunday, read the reports and listened to a few podcasts. Watched motd highlights today. Didn’t think the miss was too bad and credit Martinez with a brilliant save.

Slightly more disappointed he didn’t lay it off for Talbi than the choice of finish but it wasn’t as a big a mistake as I’d expected having heard the furore surrounding it.
 
People still raging I take it? I understand, I was the same on Sunday.

The young lad in his 1st season in the Premier and has had a lengthy lay off. Nowt to do with missing his 1v1 against Villa but some perspective.

I'm willing to give him the benefit. Hopefully he can kick on and improve.
 
Nasser Butt-Head said:
People still raging I take it? I understand, I was the same on Sunday.

The young lad in his 1st season in the Premier and has had a lengthy lay off. Nowt to do with missing his 1v1 against Villa but some perspective.

I'm willing to give him the benefit. Hopefully he can kick on and improve.
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Its all shite the attack on Diarra ffs the best have missed them!! "He has to score" is shite too. Hear it it nearly every game, i give you Havertz v City, is he shite?? Le Fee pennenka is he shite?? I could go on
 
Turnip from the Tip said:
Didn’t see the game or mange to follow it on Sunday, read the reports and listened to a few podcasts. Watched motd highlights today. Didn’t think the miss was too bad and credit Martinez with a brilliant save.

Slightly more disappointed he didn’t lay it off for Talbi than the choice of finish but it wasn’t as a big a mistake as I’d expected having heard the furore surrounding it.
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Was indeed a class save by Martinez. People forget he’s a World Cup winning goalie who pulled off a miracle save in the final not too long ago. Watching Diarra’s shot back a few times, Martinez is already starting to go to ground so a little dink over wasn’t the worst choice. Will probably win save of the month given the circumstances, etc.

From our point of view watching it, it looks worse because he should have layed it off to Talbi. But if that was any other player, would they have done the same as Diarra? Probably. It’s been a while since I’ve seen a striker lay the ball off to the side when essentially 1 on 1
 
Korra said:
Was indeed a class save by Martinez. People forget he’s a World Cup winning goalie who pulled off a miracle save in the final not too long ago. Watching Diarra’s shot back a few times, Martinez is already starting to go to ground so a little dink over wasn’t the worst choice. Will probably win save of the month given the circumstances, etc.

From our point of view watching it, it looks worse because he should have layed it off to Talbi. But if that was any other player, would they have done the same as Diarra? Probably. It’s been a while since I’ve seen a striker lay the ball off to the side when essentially 1 on 1
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If you buy African flair, expect it and embrace it. Outrageous effort if it worked and it nearly did. It’s compounded of course by the fact they score before we have the ball in their half again.

Overall though I really like Diarra and think he’ll be incredible for us, but don’t ask him not to play football the African way!
 
Wakoro said:
You've never played football have you? At this level he should have the awareness to glance over his shoulders to see what his options are. He went for glory and tried to finesse it. It was bad decision making, too many of our players have it in front of goal this season, we should be about 12 points better off if they finished the sitters they've missed.
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In hindsight, it was bad decision-making. On another day, it may well have gone in and everyone will be saying he is world class. I don't blame him for having a go. He was one-on-one - I think it's fair enough he takes it on.
Chewit said:
Don’t agree, the probability of scoring is far higher if it’s hard and low either side of him.
I goalie stands tall til a player commits himself… if he gets to close odds on the goalie will save it, particularly if he gets to chip it… which is what he did.
I think it was showboating when it needed a clinical finish.
Glad the players have confidence to try things but that strikes me as youthful lack of discipline
Onwards and upwards
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Disagree. Keeper closed the angle right down.
 
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Roker Magic said:
In hindsight, it was bad decision-making. On another day, it may well have gone in and everyone will be saying he is world class. I don't blame him for having a go. He was one-on-one - I think it's fair enough he takes it on.
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He should know his limitations, he's a poor finisher and tried an world class finish instead of passing to his mate who was in front of an open goal.
I blame him. But he should continue to start games and I hope he recovers just like Le Fee did after the panenka.
 
Raven5 said:
He should know his limitations, he's a poor finisher and tried an world class finish instead of passing to his mate who was in front of an open goal.
I blame him. But he should continue to start games and I hope he recovers just like Le Fee did after the panenka.
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For all we know, he might have scored a similar goal against Roeffs in training, last week. I think he's talented enough to score that kind of goal. I've seen Messi and Ronaldo miss similar. It happens. What a lot of people do not acknowledge is how fast the keeper was off his line and how he got his hand to it. Class goalkeeping.
 
People still talking as if he knows Talbi is coming up to his right, ignores him, and it's as simple as rolling it across for an open goal :lol:
SAFC Wilks said:
There’s no guarantee that Talbi shouts though.

Also Talbi wouldn’t be shouting whilst Diarra is running through, he’s consistently behind him until the point Diarra slows down for the shot.

He’s not going to sprint forward through on goal - one on one from 40 yards - and just slow down to pass it to someone who may or may not be there.
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Spot on.
Pacific said:
in hindsight i don't think it's as bad as i thought it was yesterday. it's just really good goalkeeping. Martinez sets to block the low shot to his left with his legs and then somehow still in a split second gets his hand up to stop the chip. it's like 2 save motions at the same time. and Diarra from his position has no idea Talbi is there for that to even be a thought to him
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Good post.
 
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