Diarra lately

[Hendon Mad Frog]

Unforgiveable, embarrassing and should never put a shirt on for us again were just some of the posts from yesterday.

 

[10 Gary Rowells]

Totally agree - for someone who loves to push, leave one in late on people etc he's one of the biggest divers and whingers in the league. Infuriating to play against but we'd probably love it if he was doing it for us!

Exactly this, can't stand him. McGinn can be dirty one minute and then feign injury the next to get someone booked. He's one of the worst at this but the media ignores it. Normally, players do this because they don't think they are quite good enough but I think McGinn is actually a pretty good player. That he resorts to what is pretty much cheating is disappointing.

 

[SAFC Wilks]

Absolutely but we must make it abundantly clear to players they need to make the easy not flashy decision

Which Le Fee has been doing ever since he tried something flashy.

Maybe that mistake was what we needed to happen to stop Diarra doing any more - and hopefully others trying stuff like that.

 

[Blackcoop52]

Which Le Fee has been doing ever since he tried something flashy.

Maybe that mistake was what we needed to happen to stop Diarra doing any more - and hopefully others trying stuff like that.

Young men/young players make mistakes - he will be a worldie in a couple of years, I wish people would be more patient and back off.
Look at Chris Rigg, I bet he gets loads more goals now he’s scored a belter in this division.

 

[Bald King]

I got ripped apart on here when I said he brings little to the team. He can get about the pitch but he’s not a very good footballer or for the benefit of the doubt not a good 10 / winger - maybe deeper he could do a job with his energy

That chance today he looked like he did everything he could to miss it

He will come good.

 

[DonaldDownTheWing]

On what basis are you an expert on one on ones ?

Wayne Rooney said he should’ve squared it, or put it into the bottom right corner. I think he’s qualified to speak on goal scoring.

 

[ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK]

When it happens it's very fast as if you look at the longer clip. Talbi is nowhere near close enough to begin with and behind a Villa defender. After the class pass from Le Fee, Diarra is away when he 1st touches the ball but Talbi is well behind and there's no way Diarra knows Talbi is busting a gut to catch up either. Diarra is on his own from his perspective is within 2 seconds of facing Martinez.

It's only just before Diarra knocks the ball slightly to the right with the outside of his boot to gain to shape up to shoot that Talbi is in a position to be seen but Talbi is still 6 yards behind (shades of grass are 6 yards).

By that time, a couple of seconds and no doubt many thoughts of what to do, Diarra has made his decision as shapes up to shoot when the ball hits the D of the penna area as you see him adjust his feet with smaller strides.

The whole thing happens in just a few seconds and those who've played footy know that a few seconds watching isn't as fast as when the ball is at your feet and the gap to the keeper is closing fast and the pressure is on. The camera angle also make it's look closer than it is.

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As for the pace of the ball as some are still saying it wouldn't have gone in, unless they've missed the slow mo gig. The ball is kicked faster than Ming's is running and it would have went in. The image below has the ball just after it's kicked at the top and just before it's saved at the bottom with Mings in a similar position in both.

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[Dodgy]

class.

I might be a pillock but I’m certainly not a mat Marra

A what, now?

 

[Raven5]

When it happens it's very fast as if you look at the longer clip. Talbi is nowhere near close enough to begin with and behind a Villa defender. After the class pass from Le Fee, Diarra is away when he 1st touches the ball but Talbi is well behind and there's no way Diarra knows Talbi is busting a gut to catch up either. Diarra is on his own from his perspective is within 2 seconds of facing Martinez.

It's only just before Diarra knocks the ball slightly to the right with the outside of his boot to gain to shape up to shoot that Talbi is in a position to be seen but Talbi is still 6 yards behind (shades of grass are 6 yards).

By that time, a couple of seconds and no doubt many thoughts of what to do, Diarra has made his decision as shapes up to shoot when the ball hits the D of the penna area as you see him adjust his feet. All this happens in just a few seconds and those who've played footy know that a few seconds watching isn't as fast as when the ball is at your feet and the gap to the keeper is closing fast and the pressure is on. The camera angle also make it's look closer than it is.

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As for the pace of the ball as some are still saying it wouldn't have gone in, unless they've missed the slow mo gig. The ball is kicked faster than Ming's is running and it would have went in. The image below has the ball just after it's kicked at the top and just before it's saved at the bottom with Mings in a similar position in both.

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For a Premie League player that's an eternity, there are rare occasions where the attacker has so much time in a central position one on one with the keeper. It's a terrible miss, atrocious finish.

Just stop defending this crap finish.
Ok, let's move on, the boy should be forgiven, but you can't defend that. Not the first time he takes the wrong decision, he usually does it in the final third and his shots are awful most of the time.
He needs to recover from this and start improving his final ball or he'll remain just a workhorse.

 

[halfpast3]

Wayne Rooney said he should’ve squared it, or put it into the bottom right corner. I think he’s qualified to speak on goal scoring.

Missing out the bit when he said it’s miles harder than it looks?

 

[Pacific]

in hindsight i don't think it's as bad as i thought it was yesterday. it's just really good goalkeeping. Martinez sets to block the low shot to his left with his legs and then somehow still in a split second gets his hand up to stop the chip. it's like 2 save motions at the same time. and Diarra from his position has no idea Talbi is there for that to even be a thought to him

 

[Red]

Absolutely but we must make it abundantly clear to players they need to make the easy not flashy decision

Who are "we" to tell them this?

Has someone arranged a meeting with the players and a spokesman for the footballing experts of the SMB to pass this message on?

Players make mistakes, it's time everyone just got over it.

 

[Wakoro]

Unforgiveable, embarrassing and should never put a shirt on for us again were just some of the posts from yesterday.

Passionate people are always going to have knee jerk and emotional reactions in the moment. I'm still absolutely gutted and annoyed at Diarra for that miss. We would be 6th now and in good stead to get into the Europa League which will take us to the next level and bring a global audience to us.

It would have been one of our great historical moments to comeback and win that game, we'd have been elated and talked about it forever.

For me I will always think of that miss when I think of Diarra, unless he wipes it away with some great performances.

We seriously need to start scoring more from the central midfield, Xhaka and Diarra usually score more goals, they need to improve on that front. The whole team needs to start putting their foot through the ball in front of goal. SMASH IT!

 

[SAFC Wilks]

When it happens it's very fast as if you look at the longer clip. Talbi is nowhere near close enough to begin with and behind a Villa defender. After the class pass from Le Fee, Diarra is away when he 1st touches the ball but Talbi is well behind and there's no way Diarra knows Talbi is busting a gut to catch up either. Diarra is on his own from his perspective is within 2 seconds of facing Martinez.

It's only just before Diarra knocks the ball slightly to the right with the outside of his boot to gain to shape up to shoot that Talbi is in a position to be seen but Talbi is still 6 yards behind (shades of grass are 6 yards).

By that time, a couple of seconds and no doubt many thoughts of what to do, Diarra has made his decision as shapes up to shoot when the ball hits the D of the penna area as you see him adjust his feet with smaller strides.

The whole thing happens in just a few seconds and those who've played footy know that a few seconds watching isn't as fast as when the ball is at your feet and the gap to the keeper is closing fast and the pressure is on. The camera angle also make it's look closer than it is.

Logon or register to see this image

As for the pace of the ball as some are still saying it wouldn't have gone in, unless they've missed the slow mo gig. The ball is kicked faster than Ming's is running and it would have went in. The image below has the ball just after it's kicked at the top and just before it's saved at the bottom with Mings in a similar position in both.

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Martinez does brilliant. He can see Diarra is running centrally in a straight line, so comes right out to him to close the gap.

Sure, he could hit it early to the keeper’s side - but if he shoots from 25 yards when one on one we’d likely be fuming he hasn’t took it further forward.

It’s marginal like. Literally a couple of inches higher on the chip and it’s probably a goal.

Hard lines, but an excellent save.

I’m more pissed off with the fact that we conceded seconds later than the actual Diarra miss.

 

[rokerexile]

He needs a pre season ,let’s be fair on the lad he missed 3 months with a serious hamstring injury,still probably holding back a bit because that injury is still probably playing on his mind tbh

His fitness (or lack of it) has no bearing on his decision making. A pass to Talbi was a nailed on goal and probable winner.

 

[Red]

Talbi is nowhere near close enough to begin with and behind a Villa defender. After the class pass from Le Fee, Diarra is away when he 1st touches the ball but Talbi is well behind and there's no way Diarra knows Talbi is busting a gut to catch up either.

Sick of saying this to people.

 

[SAFC Wilks]

in hindsight i don't think it's as bad as i thought it was yesterday. it's just really good goalkeeping. Martinez sets to block the low shot to his left with his legs and then somehow still in a split second gets his hand up to stop the chip. it's like 2 save motions at the same time. and Diarra from his position has no idea Talbi is there for that to even be a thought to him

Seeing the GIF back really helps (cheers again @ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK for posting).

At the time I thought he very softly tried to lift it over the keeper and it would have barely gone past the 6 yard line.

Sick of saying this to people.

The only way he’d see Talbi is if he suddenly turns his head to the right when running through on goal, but no player is doing that one on one in the last minute at 3-3.

It’s ridiculous to blame him for not passing it to Talbi.

 

[Red]

His fitness (or lack of it) has no bearing on his decision making. A pass to Talbi was a nailed on goal and probable winner.

See this post

Unless Diarra has eyes in the back of his head, he doesn't see Talbi at all until he's shaping to chip the ball.

 

[ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK]

Martinez does brilliant. He can see Diarra is running centrally in a straight line, so comes right out to him to close the gap.

Sure, he could hit it early to the keeper’s side - but if he shoots from 25 yards when one on one we’d likely be fuming he hasn’t took it further forward.

It’s marginal like. Literally a couple of inches higher on the chip and it’s probably a goal.

Hard lines, but an excellent save.

I’m more pissed off with the fact that we conceded seconds later than the actual Diarra miss.

Yeah it looks like he was going to save the same way as he did in the World Cup, amazingly also 3-3 in the last minutes and it being a match winning save to eventually win the World Cup.

For Isidor's goal, even though Martinez slipped and Isidor moved to the right before hitting the ball, Martinez still got fingertips on the ball from Isidor's shot.

It's the conceding a goal after that took the pain of the miss up numerous levels!

Seeing the GIF back really helps (cheers again @ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK for posting).

At the time I thought he very softly tried to lift it over the keeper and it would have barely gone past the 6 yard line.

The only way he’d see Talbi is if he suddenly turns his head to the right when running through on goal, but no player is doing that one on one in the last minute at 3-3.

It’s ridiculous to blame him for not passing it to Talbi.

No bother and it's why I post stuff like that as sometimes it changes peoples opinions. I though the same as you as no doubt did many others seeing it live. Seeing it again then I can see it a lot differently and I'm not as narked with Diarra as I initially was thinking his chip was too weak and that he should have passed to Talbi as this was my post in the match thread.

He's gotta pass that man!

 

[dangermows]

Have you seen the replay though from the camera behind Diarra, Talbi is miles behind him, he makes up ground quickly but only gets anywhere near him just as HD is already pulling the trigger. Could he have done better yes, should he have, possibly. He's had a decent effort and the keeper made a good save.

Not from you by the way but I'm shocked at the levels of abuse the kid is getting. That's just on here, presumably it's much worse on twitter etc.

Good post. Agree with your overall point. However, if people are seeing it as the lad you are responding to does, it's no wonder he's getting abuse. The lad has described as a simple roll across for a tap in.