Superkenwynejones
Midfield
Wilders not world class though.
Only has Fury and Ortiz of note on his record.
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Only has Fury and Ortiz of note on his record.
Gennaro Savastano
Midfield
Ngannou isn't a boxer.
brains
Striker
Wilder can't box eggs. Awful padded record...
Superkenwynejones
Midfield
And flattened Fury on his debut
Gennaro Savastano
Midfield
He held a world title for years so is definitely a better wind than Ngannou.
I agree but Ngannou isn't even a boxer
Sidewinder2
Striker
You’re not telling me Joshua was sitting there scared and not wanting any of it ?
Not at all
I'm saying h s sitting there thinking h a the dogs bollocks, he's shit.
Maravilla
Striker
Can see people thinking that Ngannou won that fight but there have been hundreds of decisions worse than that.
Superkenwynejones
Midfield
Christ look at his title defences . Not 1 defence was against a top 10 ranked opponent apart from Ortiz to which he lost every round in both fights before finding a punch from the gods
brains
Striker
He held a world title for years so is definitely a better wind than Ngannou.
I agree but Ngannou isn't even a boxer
Beating stiverne , brezeale , Ortiz....
Fury did a good job bigging Wilder up...
He's a bang average boxer..
Good knockout record against mostly tomato cans...
Superkenwynejones
Midfield
Probably but it was a robbery
Sidewinder2
Striker
Ignoring the other Usyk and Dubious fights then ?
Gennaro Savastano
Midfield
Yes but Ngannou isn't a boxer. Stop being silly.
The truth is neither Joshua or Fury have had a world class win in 5 years. Move on. It will be shite.
Better boxing record than Ngannou though aye?
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Superkenwynejones
Midfield
Dubois was ranked in the top 5 of all governing bodies when he fought AJ. Usyk is the greatest of his generation hardly a losses to be ashamed of
What top 5 fighters has fury fought back to back?
Maravilla
Striker
Haven't watched it since it happened, and have no intention of revisiting it but from memory it was a close fight that could have gone either way. Admittedly that in itself is hugely embarrassing for Fury but he's always had a tendency to box to the level of his opponent.
brains
Striker
Don't believe it will...it's two fairly evenly matched fighters. They should have fought 5 years ago. But still a fight I'd like to see.
Both are still genuine top 5 heavyweights imo...
Gennaro Savastano
Midfield
I said world level. He was a world champion so he was world level despite a crap CV.
brains
Striker
Does that mean Charles Martin is world level?
Probably best to call them elite level - and Wilder has none of them. A past it Ortiz is his best win...
Gennaro Savastano
Midfield
He was briefly because he was a world champion
Superkenwynejones
Midfield
It’s the only recent opponent comparison you can make between them. Both were comfortably outclassed by Usyk and Joshua dealt with Wallin and Ngannou better than Fury did.
Sidewinder2
Striker
People who have beaten Fury
Usyk
People who have beaten Joshua
Ruiz
Usyk
Dubious FFS
Yet people claim Joshua would beat Fury, Dubious knocked him out and he doesn't have a clue what day it is.
Fury is a boxer, AJ is a puncher
Usyk
People who have beaten Joshua
Ruiz
Usyk
Dubious FFS
Yet people claim Joshua would beat Fury, Dubious knocked him out and he doesn't have a clue what day it is.
Fury is a boxer, AJ is a puncher
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