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Danny Dyer talks sense
- Thread starter Scotty 1978
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Quack
Central Defender
Agreed, think he's sound me.
tunstallhill
Striker
I don't think he's saying that people shouldn't support who they want, his point is about getting 'that feeling" when you support your local, never-win-anything , constant disappointment of a club... And they give you a brief moment of a tiny glimmer of success ( a derby win, a win against the big boys, a cup final) .... Supporters of big clubs, especially the likes who aren't even from Manchester or Liverpool will never have "that feeling" .
That's all I interpret his comments as
Barista
Midfield
I think there's a difference between the people who have no links, and 'randomly ' choose one of the 'big 6', Real, Barca, PSG, just because they are winning and trendy, and kids like the Spelling Bee kid who is obviously not choosing for that reason.
If you have a Roker Park accent, then why wouldn't you
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Zen Den
Full Back
I liked the video and agreed with him but you’ve put a good case forward for the other side. I do think what he says about it not feeling the same is true though.
I was born in Newcastle, raised in Felling then South Shields, support Sunderland cos me dad does. There’s maybe something of it even I can’t share with people born in Sunderland. However this was mid-90s Keegan’s Newcastle and we were terrible and everyone else I knew supported Newcastle, so it was character building and in some ways I feel like I’ve had an experience of support people born in Sunderland won’t have had.
I think if you’re born out of the region though it just can’t grab you in the same way.
Inside Forward
Winger
I’m not saying it doesn’t happen in the north east but 90% of football shirts you see are either Sunderland or Newcastle.
When I moved to the Midlands I was shocked how many “support” United and Liverpool. You’re more likely to see a Man Utd shirt down here than Villa or Birmingham.
They tend to be ignorant as fuck about other clubs too.
When I moved to the Midlands I was shocked how many “support” United and Liverpool. You’re more likely to see a Man Utd shirt down here than Villa or Birmingham.
They tend to be ignorant as fuck about other clubs too.
doodlebugs
Striker
not one point in what DD says is true, in fact he comes owa as a bit of a tossa,personally been going to support the lads since 1962,but according to yon fucka I shouldn't be anywhere near, and yet a few on here agree with him,fukn hopeless argument he's spouting like
Barista
Midfield
I think what he is really trying to say (but not explaining himself well) is that people who have no geographical or family links to a club usually seem to choose Liverpool/Man U, Arsenal, rather than Barnet, Tranmere or Stockport County - the term Glory Supporters was coined for these a long time ago.
That being said, I have come across such types who had season tickets and would travel 200 miles to Liverpool/Manchester every other week, so their dedication can't be questioned.
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South Banker Wolf
Midfield
Bang on mate.
Coeus
Striker
Then I concur, I haven't watched it tbh was just commenting on the general feedback.
I dont think anyone who picks a random club could experience the feeling I had when we won at Wembley after my dad had passed or the little moments with my grandad over Sunderland, but they could of course have that from other areas of life that I dont.
Ned Land
Winger
Really? Some of our best fans are those who were born outside of the NE.
Coeus
Striker
Only ever met one Stoke fan despite living so close for 18 years, lovely chap mind.
I couldnt possibly judge as I dont have the perspective of someone who supports a club of the region where they were born or grew up but i can say the club has played a huge role in my life.
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doodlebugs
Striker
you could certainly look at it that way, but its certainly not what he was implying
CatRyan
Striker
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Be like Liam, be like me, if you don't have football as a thing pick a team that isn't in the top flight but plays with passion or something.
It can get very important but you don't have the blood ties which mean so much, but you don't have blood ties to any club so
Right of course not and no club will do that for them if they don't have a football heritage, but picking one of the top 2 is just shit.
Be like Liam, be like me, if you don't have football as a thing pick a team that isn't in the top flight but plays with passion or something.
It can get very important but you don't have the blood ties which mean so much, but you don't have blood ties to any club so
It's the people who grow up closest to decent clubs (anyone National League or above imo), but choose glory clubs are the people I feel sorry for. They'd get far more out of going to Hartlepool games than watching Man City on the tele.
He goes a little over the top with the cockney geezer persona but his point is correct here. Of course support whoever you want but you won’t get the same emotional reward if you just pick whatever super club is successful.
Edit - I was in a pub in the NYC suburbs watching the Burnley game with my wife a few weeks back. There was a guy in there with last year’s home top on. Got chatting to him, he’s American. I asked him why he supports Sunderland. He said about 10 years ago he was looking for a team to support and thought Sunderland seems like “him”. Not sure how to reconcile that with the Danny Dyer vid. Poor bastard.
Fair play to him for sticking through probably the worst 10 years in our history though!
Edit - I was in a pub in the NYC suburbs watching the Burnley game with my wife a few weeks back. There was a guy in there with last year’s home top on. Got chatting to him, he’s American. I asked him why he supports Sunderland. He said about 10 years ago he was looking for a team to support and thought Sunderland seems like “him”. Not sure how to reconcile that with the Danny Dyer vid. Poor bastard.
Fair play to him for sticking through probably the worst 10 years in our history though!
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Zen Den
Full Back
I mean specifically the rivalry aspect, I suppose.
Yeah, I was thinking more about the rivalry aspect of things than love for the club, so I don’t mean to gatekeep.
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My Dad took me to Roker Park in 1958, but I moved to London in 1970. I'm an exile but my two lads are Mackems through and through, despite being born and bred half-way between Spuds and the Arse. They love coming up to the stay with my sister and going to the SoL with their SC holding cousins. We buy lots of merch and get to whatever away games we can too. They have a real connection with the city and the region, despite living 280 miles away.
I think DD is quite right so far as supporting local football is concerned, but this is a global game now.
That does not excuse people who ignore their local club (and there are 9 Prem and Champo teams in London), in favour of teams 200 miles away that have won a lot of Honours. Glory Hunters is the term.
Ned Land
Winger
There is/was hell-on in some of the midlands mining areas.
We know a few mags (one lives opposite), they are mostly ok, wear shirts in pubs, a bit big-headed. It’s never led to outright violence but we sometimes exchange barbs with ones we don’t know.
A 20-something year old mag walked into one of our locals on a Saturday afternoon , no match on tv or anything. We’d been on a dog walk, I pointed at him and half-jokingly boooooooed but he wasn’t much fun.
