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Dennis Cirkin


The Cabbage said:
Reinildo is f***ing excellent but what self respecting player would sign a deal if they get removed from the team when they’re playing well? Goes completely against the way Reg runs his team and makes it clear that there’s a multi-tier division in the squad.
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Understand your point but there clearly is a “multi-tier division” in the squad. Some players are just better than others.

Roefs gets injured, Patto comes in and does well, Roefs is fully fit again, he comes straight back in. Same as Sadiki heading off to AFCON, he comes back and takes his place in the XI because we are a better team for having him in. Same with Reinildo, not a slight against Cirkin, but Reinildo is a level above.
 
I really hope he signs a new deal. Losing say £10m of talent for nothing in the summer affects our kitty as we’ll need to spend to replace him.

Unfortunately by playing and doing so well recently he’ll likely have raised the interest in him from other clubs. Good for him and his agent to maximise a new club deal as a free agent in the summer. There’s nothing we can do if that’s the route he chooses.
 
TheCat99 said:
Seems like he’s gained an extra yard of pace in his time out. Maybe been doing a lot of polymetric style training. He’s ready to play premier league football. Would love him to sign a new contract but have a feeling he’s away. His performances mean another prem team will offer him a contract in the summer or we may take a fee for him this month if he refuses a contract! Brentford were linked in the past.
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Is that similar to plyometric training?
 
Whitburnmakem said:
Not at all two goal in two games cost us now Hume and if that wasn’t a penalty yesterday the other once certainly was he’s not quick enough fit Cirkin is far the better player
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mate, everyone it entitled to an opinion, but you’re talking absolute wet. Cirkin is a good player but you don’t need to tear down another to make your point. Both are good fullbacks, but Hume has proved himself at this level and Cirkin is on his way to doing the same.
 
connolly_31 said:
Understand your point but there clearly is a “multi-tier division” in the squad. Some players are just better than others.

Roefs gets injured, Patto comes in and does well, Roefs is fully fit again, he comes straight back in. Same as Sadiki heading off to AFCON, he comes back and takes his place in the XI because we are a better team for having him in. Same with Reinildo, not a slight against Cirkin, but Reinildo is a level above.
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Reinildo is definitely a better left back - albeit Cirkin is better going forward imo. But you can’t separate the wider context. Particularly when we’re not desperate for every single point. Reinildo is 32 and Cirkin is young, improving and a player we need to tie down. If we drop him for Reinildo immediately it would likely end any hopes of getting him signed up. That’s not good for SAFC in my view - and is more valuable than a minor uplift in team strength for an individual game.
 
Whitburnmakem said:
Not at all two goal in two games cost us now Hume and if that wasn’t a penalty yesterday the other once certainly was he’s not quick enough fit Cirkin is far the better player
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Ur off your trolly mate. So that’s one mistake in 2 games. Mukiele gave the ball away for Brentford’s first and then Leeds penalty, so that’s 2 in 2.

But nobody’s focusing on that because he, like Hume, have been part of one of the best defenses in the premier league this season.

I like Cirkin, he’s quality but as sure as night follows day he’s not twice the player of Hume. It’s a ridiculous thing to say.
 
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Evester said:
This. Financially we will be able to put a package together that will still be cheaper than a signing another left back on massive money with a signing on fee too
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When players renew contracts they usually negotiate a signing on fee I think, as the club is still saving on buying a new player.
 
The Cabbage said:
Reinildo is definitely a better left back - albeit Cirkin is better going forward imo. But you can’t separate the wider context. Particularly when we’re not desperate for every single point. Reinildo is 32 and Cirkin is young, improving and a player we need to tie down. If we drop him for Reinildo immediately it would likely end any hopes of getting him signed up. That’s not good for SAFC in my view - and is more valuable than a minor uplift in team strength for an individual game.
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Fair enough, I get your point. Don’t agree that Cirkin is better going forward mind, but he does have time on his side for improvement. But tying Cirkin down would be good for the club, but should he want to move on, I wouldn’t be devastated.
 
connolly_31 said:
Fair enough, I get your point. Don’t agree that Cirkin is better going forward mind, but he does have time on his side for improvement. But tying Cirkin down would be good for the club, but should he want to move on, I wouldn’t be devastated.
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It’s just unnecessary money and a potential hg issue to me. There’s players out there (I really like Thierry Small for instance) but that’s gonna cost us £10m to get done. Or we get a foreign lad and kill ourselves on the limits.

On the attacking thing, Reinildo is fantastic effort and physicality but an absolute bombscare in the ball imo. So good defensively that it doesn’t really matter though!
 
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