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ID checks for away tickets

Barney Mackem 13 said:
Demand will ease.
Because once people have done "1 rotation " of away grounds, unless a new team comes up.
People arent as interested

Take City away the other week, its not a great away day, nothing near the ground for away fans, not the best of grounds, etc. I went beause id not been for years.
I wont be going next season though.


I remember Stoke in the snow.
Absolutely baltic.

Accrington in the rain was "fun" as well. 😂
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you have a strange idea of fun 😂. The lads i was with were in the seats and they were moaning about being wet until they saw me. When i got dropped off in Durham water was still dripping off me as i walked through the town.
 

Parkmaverick said:
you have a strange idea of fun 😂. The lads i was with were in the seats and they were moaning about being wet until they saw me. When i got dropped off in Durham water was still dripping off me as i walked through the town.
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My mam took her water proofs with her and a few on the bus were laughing at her when she put them on. She was the one laughing when we got back on the bus after the match
 
tunstallhill said:
Excellent post. The branches have been there for the club unconditionally throughout decades of absolute shite, and will be there long after all of us are gone. As long as the club gives them a tiny bit of protection

It's interesting how the branches are all of a sudden public enemy number one with a lot of people, but club staff and friends of staff being able to get away tickets despite not even having a season ticket is seen as necessary for the clubs survival


But if that branch has a pool of say 100 regulars, but only 40 STs with enough points to guarantee a ticket to fill the bus, what's the problem ?

It's not like the branch is using non attending ST holders numbers to buy tickets and sell for a massive profit, they are just using an un-used ticket to help them fill a bus, more than likely with fans who have been using that branch bus for years anyway.

It's really not crime of the century
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Its not but the same rules should apply to everyone - just because they have a bus to fill doesn't make them exempt from the rules
 
Hawkings Boots said:
Its not but the same rules should apply to everyone - just because they have a bus to fill doesn't make them exempt from the rules
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The upshot of this is that a lot of the branches will probably fold.
Then if we are shite again (this is the best we've been in a generation) the branches won't be there to support the club like they have for the last year's of utter shite.
 
offmenut said:
The upshot of this is that a lot of the branches will probably fold.
Then if we are shite again (this is the best we've been in a generation) the branches won't be there to support the club like they have for the last year's of utter shite.
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Well if the branches can buy tickets and sell on then so can all fans
 
A lot of Branches will fold because they're stopped from abusing the system whereby guys with few or no points can get to games and the high points guys get to stay high, haway man. Surely they would merge with other branches. If a lot of branches were to close then this would suggest that the abuse is far greater than we think. I don't believe that to be the case as I'm sure that the majority are run properly. I've said in another message that if Branches have a reserve list that can be called upon when someone drops out at the last minute then I've got no problem with that. It'll be a real fan filling what would be an empty seat. But if they're buying tickets for guys that have no intention of going to the match, but they get to keep the point, then I do have a problem with that. It's not right in my opinion
 
tunstallhill said:
Excellent post. The branches have been there for the club unconditionally throughout decades of absolute shite, and will be there long after all of us are gone. As long as the club gives them a tiny bit of protection

It's interesting how the branches are all of a sudden public enemy number one with a lot of people, but club staff and friends of staff being able to get away tickets despite not even having a season ticket is seen as necessary for the clubs survival


But if that branch has a pool of say 100 regulars, but only 40 STs with enough points to guarantee a ticket to fill the bus, what's the problem ?

It's not like the branch is using non attending ST holders numbers to buy tickets and sell for a massive profit, they are just using an un-used ticket to help them fill a bus, more than likely with fans who have been using that branch bus for years anyway.

It's really not crime of the century
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Great post.
 
SAFC1962 said:
I hate this digital stuff on phones, what if you go for a piss & drop your phone in the toilet, or fannying round outside the ground drop it in a puddle 🤷‍♂️.
I'm not gonna take my passport 500 bloody miles on an off chance & I also only have a paper driving licence.
I would happily pay £5 more every away match for a paper ticket.
The arse on over branches getting priority should stop - so what if u r in a branch, just apply when it's your turn like the rest of us
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The branches can only apply for tickets in the phases the same way everyone else does.

They can put in an application for upto 40 people (assuming they have the required loyalty points) in phase 1. This is to keep everyone together, similar as anyone can buy upto 8/9 tickets in 1 transaction.

For phase 2 onwards, they have to buy online fastest finger first, like everyone else.

There is no advantage branches get, other than getting majority of their tickets together in phase 1. But how many people try and buy more than 8/9 tickets in phase 1 anyway?
 
Hawkings Boots said:
Its not but the same rules should apply to everyone - just because they have a bus to fill doesn't make them exempt from the rules
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But what are we trying to achieve here ? People need to take a step back and look at the bigger picture. If the branches have a pool of say 100 people who have regularly went to away games, and the branch has 40 STs on phase one points...is it really worth all this hassle and arguments if the branches uses 40 ST numbers and 10 of them are people who have gone home and away for years but aren't the exact supporter named on the ticket. Jeez, people need to lighten up

It's not like the branches are paying over odds to junk the queue, or are selling on tickets for £100s on the touting websites.

A bit of perspective is needed here
 
tunstallhill said:
It's not like the branches are paying over odds to jump the queue, or are selling on tickets for £100s on the touting websites.

A bit of perspective is needed here
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…. And this is why the rules need changing. They currently treat someone buying a ticket for every game in order to sell on at massive profit the same as they treat a dad getting his kid a ticket from a mate who is too ill to make the match.

The two are not comparable.
 
tunstallhill said:
But what are we trying to achieve here ? People need to take a step back and look at the bigger picture. If the branches have a pool of say 100 people who have regularly went to away games, and the branch has 40 STs on phase one points...is it really worth all this hassle and arguments if the branches uses 40 ST numbers and 10 of them are people who have gone home and away for years but aren't the exact supporter named on the ticket. Jeez, people need to lighten up

It's not like the branches are paying over odds to junk the queue, or are selling on tickets for £100s on the touting websites.

A bit of perspective is needed here
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Sounds like some people think the branches get as many tickets as they want. It's a max of 40 as you say in Phase 1. Not quite enough to fill a bus, there may be some who get own tickets and still get bus, but like myself, i was getting tickets through our branch but driving to games as there was 5 of us and it wasn't worth the £150+ on bus fare for what would be £30 worth of fuel in a car.
 
Towers76 said:
A lot of Branches will fold because they're stopped from abusing the system whereby guys with few or no points can get to games and the high points guys get to stay high, haway man. Surely they would merge with other branches. If a lot of branches were to close then this would suggest that the abuse is far greater than we think. I don't believe that to be the case as I'm sure that the majority are run properly. I've said in another message that if Branches have a reserve list that can be called upon when someone drops out at the last minute then I've got no problem with that. It'll be a real fan filling what would be an empty seat. But if they're buying tickets for guys that have no intention of going to the match, but they get to keep the point, then I do have a problem with that. It's not right in my opinion
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This is exactly my point which I’ve said from the start of this thread, I can’t speak for every branch but it’s happened the odd time in the branch I’m in. The tickets are being passed on if someone drops out at the last minute to genuine supporters. There is a lot of old timers in my branch that sometimes pull out and a lot of old timers that manage to get to a game with genuine intent.

Anyone selling tickets on for financial game is massively in the wrong but anyone passing tickets on to help fellow supporters, there’s no harm in that. Although one lad wanted people banned for life for doing it. :lol:
 
tunstallhill said:
But what are we trying to achieve here ? People need to take a step back and look at the bigger picture. If the branches have a pool of say 100 people who have regularly went to away games, and the branch has 40 STs on phase one points...is it really worth all this hassle and arguments if the branches uses 40 ST numbers and 10 of them are people who have gone home and away for years but aren't the exact supporter named on the ticket. Jeez, people need to lighten up

It's not like the branches are paying over odds to junk the queue, or are selling on tickets for £100s on the touting websites.

A bit of perspective is needed here
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Another thing people are missing is I don’t think branches will be giving tickets to randoms, with demand so high they will be giving any spare tickets to fans who put the miles in when we were crap
 
HarrogateMackem said:
Think the fairest way would be as follows.

Same rolling three year system we have now with the various bands.

2 points available for every game for SC holders - one point for just applying for a ticket to any match, one point if you get a ticket and go to the game in the various bands same as right now (So that you can still build points even if you’re on a low points). But stricter checks to ensure those going actually are using their ticket.

But alongside that I’d love to see the club offer a scheme for those without SC, so they pay a fee each season for a membership - which entitles you to half a point for application and half a point if you get a ticket for away games. So exiles can still build points, but at a slower rate then if you have a SC.

That scheme as a whole rewards those who go home and away every week, season ticket holders is still the best way to build points as they’re the lifeblood of the club, it gives an opportunity for those lower down to build points without it being a closed shop (if they’re prepared to go all over the shop) and gives exiles an opportunity to build points still in their own name.
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I don’t disagree but anything that involves the TO working harder is a non starter in reality , they aren’t going to change to an apply system from buying a ticket as it currently is
 
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