New Birmingham Stadium - 60k+

[ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK]

I disagree. The houses are vital to the whole regeneration of the town. Added to all the other housing getting built,they are vital to the city centre economy

See my edit as there's no way a few 100 people would all be spending £100s a month in town and some of those will be young kids who won't be spending much, if at all if really young.

Yet you could have 1,000s more people in that same area over a month on non match days specifically going there wanting to spend money.

 

[DiscopantsSoL]

There's plenty of other spaces to build a few 100 houses. Those few 100 people over a year aren't suddenly going to have the town economy booming by going out every day spending money in town.

Yet if there was a huge hub that attracted 100s of extra people a day spending money, on top of 1,000s on match days being offered more to do. That along with other events during the year then overall the hub would generate more money for our local economy as some people will also be going into town and vice versa.

We should be building a 12-14,000 Seat Arena on Sheepfolds behind the South Stand instead of Housing. Imagine that added to The SoL, Beacon of Light, Aquatic Centre and Hotel all on the same site. Council have missed a trick. The Newcastle/Gateshead Quays Development looks like its never gonna happen.

 

[scott934]

Birmingham should be the biggest club in Britain their support is awful. The fact they get similar gates to clubs like Stoke and Boro despite having atleast 4 times as many supporters is just embarrassing for them

Do they have 4 times as many supporters though? Aston Villa are the big club there.

 

[Mackemansj1]

Given Brady is involved, I suspect he has already been promised NFL games.

It honestly wouldn’t surprise me if Wembley gets dumped by the NFL in the coming years.

They’ve got spurs stadium deal if I’m not mistaken. So when that deal finishes they’ll definitely make a deal with Brady.

 

[elder]

did they get a year 7 kid to knock that design up...?

 

[Mackemansj1]

Was that not said about West Ham ?

London is always an outlier with things like this due to the amount of tourists around who would love to take in an epl soccer game during their London trip. It’s why Fulham can charge extortion prices and have a swimming pool built into the new stand. American On a sight seeing trip to birrrrrmingham . It all depends on them getting up and staying up and doing something as well all a huge gamble. They’ll do well with gigs and other stuff I’m guessing they will be building into the site so I’m sure they won’t care if they end up with 15k plus empty seats 23 times a season. It’s an ambitious idea so you’ve gotta give the owners that. Meanwhile we’ve got people saying we shouldn’t add 5k seats just in case we get some name calling online by fans that don’t even go to games

 

[Guitar Man]

Looks old and dated before it's built.

I think there's been a bit of emperor's new clothes when the owner said what do you think ? Nee one dare say "what a pile of steaming horse shite"

 

[Skylon]

See my edit as there's no way a few 100 people would all be spending £100s a month in town and some of those will be young kids who won't be spending much, if at all if really young.

Yet you could have 1,000s more people in that same area over a month on non match days specifically going there wanting to spend money.

Its not a few hundred people though. The sheepfolds is part of a wider housing and office scheme to bring 1000's people into the city centre. To revive the daytime/nightime economy. An arena is in the plans for the city centre on crowtree

 

[BarrySheensAutograph]

Looks a bit naff

 

[riffraff]

We should be building a 12-14,000 Seat Arena on Sheepfolds behind the South Stand instead of Housing. Imagine that added to The SoL, Beacon of Light, Aquatic Centre and Hotel all on the same site. Council have missed a trick. The Newcastle/Gateshead Quays Development looks like its never gonna happen.

Who are “we”?

 

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We found around 20k they’d have to find around theee times their current fanbase to fill it. Not saying it won’t happen and it’s nice to see owners having big ambitions but almost trebling their attendance over night would be some going. I guess it depends on how they do between now and 2030. If they’re still in the championship they’ve got little hope but if they’ve made it to the premier league in the next two and a bit seasons they’ve got a better chance.

Agree, we all know it won’t end up like that but hopefully it’s just not another stadium that could be any of the newer stadiums built in the last twenty years. Same as in the 90s they were all alike boros and ours. Derby, Southampton etc all very similar in style and layout.

Pre filling in corners, Derby & Boro were identical when first built

 

[nelford_safc]

Mags annoyed that it’s another stadium with a bigger capacity than their stadium. Honestly all they are arsed about is looking like a massive club. Proper tin pot.

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[riffraff]

They struggled to fill a 20k stadium for years , if they do fill it it’s gonna full of tourists so hopefully Birmingham has an influx of visitors

SAFC situated in a far smaller City than Birmingham were getting 20000 at Roker before moving too and filling a 42500 stadium nigh on 30 yrs ago when football was nowhere near as big as it is nowadays. I don’t remember it needing tourists to sel it out either. People all ower the country were laughing at the idea of building a 42500 seater stadium for a second flight team back then including a lot in Sunderland itself.
Some of whom may well be amongst the regulars on here who were telling those of us who knew better that WHU had no need for 60000+ seats anarl.

 

[DiscopantsSoL]

Mags annoyed that it’s another stadium with a bigger capacity than their stadium. Honestly all they are arsed about is looking like a massive club. Proper tin pot.

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Our Friend Craig Hope has sent them into meltdown now.......Stadium announcement on hold......again

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Who are “we”?

By We I Meant Whoever was planning to build the 10k seat Arena on the Crowtree Site. Council/PFI/Arena Operators. It never got off the ground as there was a lack of interest from backers in refurbishing/developing the existing structure of Crowtree as they wanted a complete new build.

 

[Skylon]

Our Friend Craig Hope has sent them into meltdown now.......Stadium announcement on hold......again

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By We I Meant Whoever was planning to build the 10k seat Arena on the Crowtree Site. Council/PFI/Arena Operators. It never got off the ground as there was a lack of interest from backers in refurbishing/developing the existing structure of Crowtree as they wanted a complete new build.

They werent going to refurbish crowtree. It was gonna be a completely new build. Might still be,it hasnt been completely ruled out

 

[Duggins81]

Birmingham should be the biggest club in Britain their support is awful. The fact they get similar gates to clubs like Stoke and Boro despite having atleast 4 times as many supporters is just embarrassing for them

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Plenty of fair weather fans and day trippers if the current Premier League trajectory continues. As they’re bound to get promoted at some point.

You’ve got to remember also that once HS2 is up and running, Birmingham could pretty much be considered as a London suburb. Which opens it up to a much larger tourist base.

Going on transfer market the avg attendance for those 3 clubs is

Boro 27,168
Brum 27,163
Stoke 26,891

That’s very fine margins marra 5 in the Boro- Brum case and they ain’t in the top 6.

Sorry @cappucinokid fuck knows why your quote is in there. Apologies like

 

[BarrySheensAutograph]

The Minarets are a nice touch

 

[Duggins81]

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Going on transfer market the avg attendance for those 3 clubs is

Boro 27,168
Brum 27,163
Stoke 26,891

That’s very fine margins marra 5 in the Boro- Brum case and they ain’t in the top 6.

Sorry @cappucinokid fuck knows why your quote is in there. Apologies like

Fuck just realised you said similar and not smaller. As you were then

 

[Hank Scorpio]

They’ve got spurs stadium deal if I’m not mistaken. So when that deal finishes they’ll definitely make a deal with Brady.

Spurs will get renewed mate. I suspect Birmingham will replace Wembley

 

[OakeyStokie]

Of course but the question still remains who those people are.

I've been to school and worked with many Birmingham fans and this goes against everything they used to claim.

I doubt they'll be the working class 'proper club' with half a ground of 'new' fans.

They've got a fair few tourists at their games now. Ultimately it doesn't really matter about their roots or whatever. The working class section of their support will still go as long as it's affordable. Pretty certain they'll welcome the tourists and new fans with open arms as long as it's part of a bigger plan to get to the top 10 of the PL with everything that brings. The same happened at Chelsea years ago, and the same is happening at Man City. Bring in the trophies and not a lot else matters in modern football sadly.

I see where you are coming from though.