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The Pep myth


Father Jack Hackett said:
Dalglish? Mind, it was the old First Division then came back and won the Premier league with Blackburn getting them up.
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Exactly so pretty much the same era as Clough.

Only person you could label it against would be Ranieri. He was in twilight of his career. A premier league winning manager in there prime doesn't drop to a middle table side
 
Father Jack Hackett said:
If you can call: Inter Milan, Real Madrid, Chelsea again and Man Utd a career slump
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His reputation had certainly taken a hit, mainly by the Man United stint but the second Chelsea end wasn’t glorious, probably not helped by modern football where you have to play a certain way and your judged on very recent results with social media impact etc so it was no longer a positive that he could come in somewhere have them firing early doors but would largely have pissed everyone off by season 3, really in modern day football and the fact managers get sacked pretty quickly anyway you’d think it might be considered a decent trait to come in as mr quick fix
 
Neautral said:
His reputation had certainly taken a hit, mainly by the Man United stint but the second Chelsea end wasn’t glorious, probably not helped by modern football where you have to play a certain way and your judged on very recent results with social media impact etc so it was no longer a positive that he could come in somewhere have them firing early doors but would largely have pissed everyone off by season 3, really in modern day football and the fact managers get sacked pretty quickly anyway you’d think it might be considered a decent trait to come in as mr quick fix
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He’d win the league again with Chelsea through mate as well as with Real Madrid with record points iirc and the treble at Inter Milan. Man Utd was a failure but he still finished second and won the UEFA Cup.
It was just really in response to winners not going to middling clubs and you don’t get much more middling than Tottenham.
 
Banks said:
Considering he failed at Real, Manchester Utd and Chelsea yeah it was a slump
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Won the League and League cup at 2nd Chelsea stint
Won the League, Copa Del Rey and Spanish Super Cup with Madrid
Done the Double at Utd and had the record for the highest amount of points for 2nd place - Obviously beaten by now but at the time it was.

Hardly a slump. You can dislike the guy but a slump is the last word I'd use.

Acheiving what he did with Utd with the likes of Jesse Lingaard who became so un-wanted he ended up f***ing off to Korea, the man's an actual genius.
 
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coyneeee said:
Won the League and League cup at 2nd Chelsea stint
Won the League, Copa Del Rey and Spanish Super Cup with Madrid
Done the Double at Utd and had the record for the highest amount of points for 2nd place - Obviously beaten by now but at the time it was.

Hardly a slump. You can dislike the guy but a slump is the last word I'd use.

Acheiving what he did with Utd with the likes of Jesse Lingaard who became so un-wanted he ended up f***ing off to Korea, the man's an actual genius.
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It was a slump 🤣

Never reached a champions league final with Real. Won one league titile in 3 seasons, lost the copy del rey final in his last season

Goes Chelsea wins the league but then loses 9 out of 16 games the season after


Goes Man Utd and wins a Europa league, that is not success.

Man Utd are England's most successful club winning the Europa is not the assignment.

His career was very much going downwards fast
 
Banks said:
It was a slump 🤣

Never reached a champions league final with Real. Won one league titile in 3 seasons, lost the copy del rey final in his last season

Goes Chelsea wins the league but then loses 9 out of 16 games the season after


Goes Man Utd and wins a Europa league, that is not success.

Man Utd are England's most successful club winning the Europa is not the assignment.

His career was very much going downwards fast
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Haway have you seen the state of Man Utd squad he inherited though. Jesse Lingaard sums it all up, when no one in Europe wants you, never mind the Premier League. He ended up going for the trusted old guard in Zlatan to carry them all and it all panned out nicely and took the team to it's absolute limit he couldn't do anymore.
 
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coyneeee said:
Haway have you seen the state of Man Utd squad he inherited though. Jesse Lingaard sums it all up, when no one in Europe wants you, never mind the Premier League. He ended up going for the trusted old guard in Zlatan to carry them all and it all panned out nicely and took the team to it's absolute limit he couldn't do anymore.
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They've got the biggest revenue in English football. He squandered a lot of money Man Utd can be champions with the right manager.

As far as he could 🤣
 
Yea...its all a bit relative....
The actual panic you hear from Man U, city, Chelsea fans etc when they go on a losing streak of 3 or 4games makes me howl....
Take half a f.ookin' season of the shambolic shheeite, drop 3 divisions and fight yer way back at Fleetwood, Accrington and Wycombe. cos those lads won't make it easy.... THEN come to me with yer tales of woe.
"1 cup in 3 years"
You must be f.ooking devastated!!
Its football....or it was
Take some of what @Swindon On Tour is getting...then
Cry me a sodding river.....
 
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